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Offline Steve Howsley

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« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2018, 12:13:22 AM »
Walt, It's obvious you are incapable of a reasonable exchange on this subject. I'll leave you alone with your childish posting and your lack of courage to even nominate the number of shots in DP.

"Toy Kellerman" indeed ... what a juvenile comment.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2018, 01:08:46 AM »
Walt, It's obvious you are incapable of a reasonable exchange on this subject. I'll leave you alone with your childish posting and your lack of courage to even nominate the number of shots in DP.

"Toy Kellerman" indeed ... what a juvenile comment.

Pssst...Perhaps you can look at your keyboard and see that the letters "T" and "R" are side by side....

What would a reasonably intelligent person assume happened that caused Roy Kellerman to become Toy Kellerman?

Offline Steve Howsley

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« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2018, 01:11:13 AM »
Pssst...Perhaps you can look at your keyboard and see that the letters "T" and "R" are side by side....

What would a reasonably intelligent person assume happened that caused Roy Kellerman to become Toy Kellerman?

How many shots in DP?

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Offline Steve Howsley

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« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2018, 01:22:39 AM »
Thanks ZM for a considered response.

Offline Bill Brown

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« Reply #34 on: June 12, 2018, 01:27:32 AM »
You failed to mention anything at all about the action taking place in the limo (including the shattering/breaking of the skull) that contributed to the perception of a flurry of shots.

I thought it was clear that I believe the idea that JFK's skull "shattered" and that created the illusion of a "flurry" of shots  is nothing but BS!....  Kellerman was referring to a "flurry of shots...Not pieces of JFK's skull flying about...

Incidentally no "fragments" from a shattered skull were found anywhere near Toy Kellrman.....


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Kellerman was referring to a "flurry of shots...Not pieces of JFK's skull flying about...

How do you know?

Kellerman never said a "flurry of shots".

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2018, 01:32:24 AM »

How do you know?

Kellerman never said a "flurry of shots".

He didn't??   Then explain this Billy Bob.....

Mr. SPECTER. Can you describe the sound of the flurry of shots by way of distinction with the way you have described the sound of the first shot?
Mr. KELLERMAN. Well, having heard all types of guns fired, most of them, rather, if I recall correctly these were two sharp reports, sir. Again, I am going to refer to it as like a plane going through a sound barrier; bang, bang.
Mr. SPECTER. Now, you are referring to the flurry?
Mr. KELLERMAN. That is right.

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« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2018, 01:59:40 AM »

Zeon, we do not know that Kellerman had the perception of a flurry of shots because he never said that.

Every single study of the autopsy photos and X-rays concluded that Kennedy was hit twice and both shots were from above and behind.


Im not contesting if he said heard a flurry, im just suggesting the "flurry" perception he has, which you were saying is caused by fragments hitting windhield, might not ALL be from the MC rifle.


And Im not contesting the head shot came from the rear, i am contesting which rear trajectory from TSBD works better, an imo, the SW angle is MUCH closer to a path from entrance wound as per HSCA diagram, to the V notch in the autopsy photo.


Im not entirely convinced by the Inside the Target Car experiment, Bill. Imo that did not have JFKs head turned leftward enough. And although they DID show a similar forward and upwards splatter pattern, I think the failed to show a bullet fragmenting into at least 6 sizable fragments and also how 3 of those could bounce of inner windsheild and richochet around the driver Greer.



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Offline Bill Brown

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« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2018, 02:12:30 AM »

Im not contesting if he said heard a flurry, im just suggesting the "flurry" perception he has, which you were saying is caused by fragments hitting windhield, might not ALL be from the MC rifle.


And Im not contesting the head shot came from the rear, i am contesting which rear trajectory from TSBD works better, an imo, the SW angle is MUCH closer to a path from entrance wound as per HSCA diagram, to the V notch in the autopsy photo.


Im not entirely convinced by the Inside the Target Car experiment, Bill. Imo that did not have JFKs head turned leftward enough. And although they DID show a similar forward and upwards splatter pattern, I think the failed to show a bullet fragmenting into at least 6 sizable fragments and also how 3 of those could bounce of inner windsheild and richochet around the driver Greer.

My point was that Kellerman said a "flurry of shells" as opposed to a flurry of shots.  Big difference.

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« Reply #38 on: June 12, 2018, 04:31:22 AM »

Kellerman never said a "flurry of shots".

Mr. SPECTER. Now, in your prior testimony you described a flurry of shells into the car. How many shots did you hear after the first noise which you described as sounding like a firecracker?
Mr. KELLERMAN. Mr. Specter, these shells came in all together.
Mr. SPECTER. Are you able to say how many you heard?
Mr. KELLERMAN. I am going to say two, and it was like a double bang--bang, bang.
Mr. SPECTER. You mean now two shots in addition to the first noise?
Mr. KELLERMAN. Yes, sir; yes, sir; at least.

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Offline Matt Grantham

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« Reply #39 on: June 12, 2018, 04:11:32 PM »
Thanks for the bumps Tony Yes it is nice when someone is in error that they actually admit it