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Offline Steve Howsley

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #230 on: June 16, 2018, 05:39:10 AM »
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Oswald assassinates the POTUS, then takes the time to wipe his prints from the rifle, ditches it, then races down 4 floors and into the lunch room in 90 seconds? HAHAHAHA!!!

Do you have trouble chewing gum and walking at the same time? Walking whilst wiping the stock and metal parts seems like a very easy task to me


The bag was used to sheep-dip the patsy and link him to the crime.

Yeah, sure it was


I'm just using logic

That's exactly what you're not doing but I understand that thinking logically might hurt your brain so it needs to be avoided


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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
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Online Jerry Freeman

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #231 on: June 16, 2018, 05:49:02 AM »
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Walking whilst wiping the stock and metal parts seems like a very easy task to me.
Walking where? Downs the stairs?
Not in evidence that the shooter went on a merry little stroll. Again, where is the rifle cleaning cloth?
Something like that would have been found and placed in evidence.

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #232 on: June 16, 2018, 05:58:45 AM »
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Walking where? Downs the stairs?

Well he didn't head up to the roof.


Not in evidence that the shooter went on a merry little stroll.

It wasn't a merry little stroll. He'd have been shitting in his pants.

Again, where is the rifle cleaning cloth?

He was wearing a tee shirt which can easily be used as a cleaning cloth even when still be worn. That would be simple, close to hand and reasonably effective.


Something like that would have been found and placed in evidence.

I suppose it was when his effects were bundled up but it would not have been labelled a rifle cleaning cloth     :D


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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #233 on: June 16, 2018, 07:02:14 AM »
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He was wearing a tee shirt which can easily be used as a cleaning cloth even when still be worn. That would be simple, close to hand and reasonably effective.


It would be physically impossible to wipe a rifle down with a shirt you are wearing and then hide it somewhere without leaving prints on it again. An otherwise interesting theory...but it's just plain silly.

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #234 on: June 16, 2018, 07:28:20 AM »
CE 1303 and 1304



That is a guitar strap



Look like a different strap?  ---A different rifle?

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Offline Steve Howsley

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #235 on: June 16, 2018, 07:43:51 AM »
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It would be physically impossible to wipe a rifle down with a shirt you are wearing and then hide it somewhere without leaving prints on it again. An otherwise interesting theory...but it's just plain silly.

Not at all impossible. There were smudges of prints on the rifle as a result of a rough but effective wiping attempt.

Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #236 on: June 16, 2018, 10:53:42 AM »
didn't find any prints on the strap either.

But hey what the heck you know , :( no problem

Only in LN  world could you forcefully grip a rifle, a strap, a paper bag, multiple times,  with bare hands   and not leave but one palm print on the bag, and leaving NO prints  on any part of the rifle, nor on shells, or the clip, or the strap.

And the LT Day "barrel palm print"  BS:   Not confirmed by FBI fingerprint expert Latona, nor by  FBI agent Drain, and only after the mortician saw FBI agents entering and taking prints from Oswalds dead body was anything known by FBI about a palm print on the barrel.  Not seen by (nor heard Lt.Day mention a print), by Tom Alyea who was filming Day dusting the rifle.

And a "smudge" on trigger housing  ::)


LNs whom  refute a logical question   with  "you are not a fingerprint expert"  or that "you must get information from movies; U2 non fingerprint experts, can demonstrate how it is even remotely probable to have only left a single palm print on the CE 142 bag and no prints on the rifle, clip, shells, any parts of rifle assembled, stock, scope.

Explain how silver nitrate process which can expose prints made weeks, months, even YEARS old, could somehow find no trace of any palm print at the places that Buell W.Frazier and Linnie May Randle saw Oswald carry the paper bag package.


These explanations below, I cannot really accept as plausible:

1. The light rain washed away completely the salt residue from the paper bag, when Oswald carried it to BWF car and washed it again when he carried from BWF car to the back door of the loading dock annex. So the silver nitrate did not expose but one palm print made inside TSBD which salt residue remained on the bag, even as the bag was carried along by Montgomery outside of TSBD.

2. Oswald was using a hankerchief but forgot later to use the hankerchief when moving boxes, except for when he remembered  when he placed  box on the window ledge.

3. Oswald  used gloves when he made the  bag in TSBD but forgot later and grabbed the bag with his barehands, but just one time, before he then realized he needed to stop doing that and carry it with a rag.





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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #237 on: June 16, 2018, 02:28:06 PM »
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... a rough but effective wiping attempt.
...said the Port-o-Let.

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #238 on: June 16, 2018, 02:51:35 PM »
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Only in LN  world could you forcefully grip a rifle, a strap, a paper bag, multiple times,  with bare hands   and not leave but one palm print on the bag

Ah, so you acknowledge there was an Oswald palm print.

Good. We are making progress.

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Re: Oswald put his package straight into Frazier's car, why?
« Reply #238 on: June 16, 2018, 02:51:35 PM »