Shifty-Eyed Fritz and the Murder of Oswald

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Shifty-Eyed Fritz and the Murder of Oswald
« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2018, 01:33:49 AM »
Starting at 1:24 ...... this reporter guy looks right at -  Jack Ruby   ..and then shakes his head at him like 'Gotta love it'.


Offline Matt Grantham

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Re: Shifty-Eyed Fritz and the Murder of Oswald
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2018, 02:59:25 AM »
 What would history have looked like if this guy ran over Ruby right as he was trying to shoot Oswald?

Online Steve Howsley

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Re: Shifty-Eyed Fritz and the Murder of Oswald
« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2018, 03:10:18 AM »
What would history have looked like if this guy ran over Ruby right as he was trying to shoot Oswald?

Very different. It didn't even require a car hitting Ruby to have given us a new present day. Simply preventing reporters into the building spilling into corridors etc would result in an excellent chance of Oswald standing trial. If Ruby wasn't asked by Carlin to wire her some money he probably wouldn't have been in the vicinity to have gunned him down. It's often little things that glue historical facts together and without them, events take a different course.

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Re: Shifty-Eyed Fritz and the Murder of Oswald
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2018, 03:35:32 AM »
 I get that Steve Just wondering what the headlines would look like I am giving Ruby more credit than I did before This car is honking at him and almost running him over and he apparently is so focused, or oblivious, he carries on unfazed Certainly Ruby could not have anticipated a car trying to hit him during this. Unless this was the part they needed to rehearse

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Re: Shifty-Eyed Fritz and the Murder of Oswald
« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2018, 03:51:02 AM »
I get that Steve Just wondering what the headlines would look like I am giving Ruby more credit than I did before This car is honking at him and almost running him over and he apparently is so focused, or oblivious, he carries on unfazed Certainly Ruby could not have anticipated a car trying to hit him during this. Unless this was the part they needed to rehearse

Come on Matt. Have you never been 'in the zone' when playing a sport or when anger starts to consume you? I expect most people could relate to that. Ruby was observed by his staff acting like a madman when bouncing customers down the stairs then minutes later wonder what had gotten hold of him.

Offline Matt Grantham

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Re: Shifty-Eyed Fritz and the Murder of Oswald
« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2018, 04:32:30 AM »
Come on Matt. Have you never been 'in the zone' when playing a sport or when anger starts to consume you? I expect most people could relate to that. Ruby was observed by his staff acting like a madman when bouncing customers down the stairs then minutes later wonder what had gotten hold of him.

 I said I was impressed with his focus, but if there were rehearsals he loses points. I am mostly just joking around Steve Not everything need be behind are battle lines

Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Shifty-Eyed Fritz and the Murder of Oswald
« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2018, 12:09:32 AM »
Starting at 1:24 ...... this reporter guy looks right at -  Jack Ruby   ..and then shakes his head at him like 'Gotta love it'.


There's a longer version of that somewhere out there Jerry where IIRC, he's not smiling at him but clocking him hard, like he's concered and Ruby leans near him and could almost mutter something to him. I'd love to know who that reporter was and if he went on the record with anything significant.
Also that line "mind the car", beautiful.

I see the vehicle pulling up snd honking as a distraction, that would have needed to be coordinated with someone outside who could see them coming and give the driver a nod. Correct me if I'm wrong but LHO was leaving in an armoured truck, not a low vehicle with windows easy enough to throw bricks through.