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Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Where was Lovelady Standing in Wiegman and Altgens6?
« Reply #40 on: August 07, 2018, 08:18:58 PM »
James,
Billy's big lean in Altgens is to his left, not forward(did you say, you had trouble replicating that in your models? If so don't worry).
Anyway, his legs would not be and are not visible from Ike's position(but again no big).

Regarding the possible morth.
Altgens to Wstep6 was what I was requesting because I don't see the difference in Lovelady and Shelly in W1 and Altgens,
that is, it looks about the same to me, can you persuade me otherwise?

Also for Alan's benefit, perhaps you should do a close up of BL's and BWF's heads in the images and your model so we can see what the difference/trouble is.
I was looking at PMvBL in your latest post and they seem to line up with Wiegman only when Lovelady is about to hit the 6th step,
if you brought BWF forward in that frame that might be a match all around(I'm restricted to plain eyeballing it atm, don't expect any sudden overlays).

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Re: Where was Lovelady Standing in Wiegman and Altgens6?
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Offline James Hackerott

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Re: Where was Lovelady Standing in Wiegman and Altgens6?
« Reply #41 on: August 09, 2018, 03:57:27 AM »
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James,
Billy's big lean in Altgens is to his left, not forward(did you say, you had trouble replicating that in your models? If so don't worry).
Anyway, his legs would not be and are not visible from Ike's position(but again no big).

Regarding the possible morth.
Altgens to Wstep6 was what I was requesting because I don't see the difference in Lovelady and Shelly in W1 and Altgens,
that is, it looks about the same to me, can you persuade me otherwise?

Also for Alan's benefit, perhaps you should do a close up of BL's and BWF's heads in the images and your model so we can see what the difference/trouble is.
I was looking at PMvBL in your latest post and they seem to line up with Wiegman only when Lovelady is about to hit the 6th step,
if you brought BWF forward in that frame that might be a match all around(I'm restricted to plain eyeballing it atm, don't expect any sudden overlays).
Hey Barry,
Thanks for those clarifications. I'll respond in reverse of your comments.

I looked at Alan's Frazier image and shifted him 3 eastward so he is closer to the vertical door frame as seen in Wiegman and will leave him there.

I made a morph of the Altgens to W1 but its not a good presentation because much of the view is blocked by plaza objects. I did make a fly-by morph of the doorway as seen from the Elm Extension. I hope that gives a view to your liking.

As for the leftward lean that helps, but does not work just on its own. But combining a leftward lean of about 10deg with a forward bend of about 31deg gives a favorable Altgens and W1 view IMO. All on the landing. It also solves Alan's observation of Frazier's approximate chin level with BL.
201808081603 Altgens to W1 BL focus


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Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Where was Lovelady Standing in Wiegman and Altgens6?
« Reply #42 on: August 10, 2018, 01:24:27 AM »
Man that is some fantastic looking work, thank you kindly James.
Now let me try and take it all in... :o
Ok, like you said it's not exactly what I was after but right now who cares?  Love it and that lean is really working.

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Re: Where was Lovelady Standing in Wiegman and Altgens6?
« Reply #42 on: August 10, 2018, 01:24:27 AM »