Oswald's High School

[Bill Brown]

  Robert Oswald had two children Cathy Marie and Robert Lee Edward Jr. John Pic had one Daughter born in July of 47. I  believe Robert's children were born around 1960 Lee or Harvey, had two DaughtersAudery Marina "Rachel"Oswald Porter b. Oct 20/63 and June Lee Oswald b.Feb 15/63 I was thinking that even a genetic test might show if Rachel and June had markers for Easter European heritage that that alone could be significant since the Oswald name is Anglo Saxon However  June and Rachel's Grandfather is listed as Nicolay Prusakov which throws a monkey wrench into that notion This would seemingly have to be Marguerite's Father Strangely Robert Oswald says he is not sure of his Mothers maiden name but assumes it was Claverie, which was her middle name

 Every time you look for anything in this case there has so be some strange stuff

You're off by a year on June Oswald's date of birth.

[Matt Grantham]

You're off by a year on June Oswald's date of birth.

 Could be I based it on a You Tube video where she was 37 and I tried to extrapolated when the video was made to come up with the year so I am not surprised I was off by a year Always appreciate corrections

[Matt Grantham]

Hi Matt if you want to sign up at EF the best thing to do is give it a whirl. If you make it great.  Just stay on message and don't venture too far off the reservation. Just play nice to abide by the kinder and gentler nature of EF and you'll be fine.  For your reading pleasure, here's the post that basically got me banned.  I killed a lot of birds with a single stone in this post, going up against Jim Eugenio, which I actually did work for several years ago on his JFK100 special, among other things.  I also went up against the scam artist Dave Lifton. And I also even expained to the readership over there how the whole EF was actually started, if you can believe, as a *marketing forum* for esteemed authors to sell their wares to mere mortals like me. Post is below along with link:

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On 5/30/2018 at 11:49 PM, David Lifton said:
As a general rule, "new information" that suddenly materializes 25 years after the fact should not be given credence. For example: if Bellah had told the Dallas Morning News or the Dallas Times Herald (within a day, a week, or even a month) that the motorcade route was changed at the last minute, that would have been important, even sensational, news.

WALTON REPLY:
I would like to congratulate Dave L on his reply to Jim DiEugenio's post here in his attempt to hold Jim to a higher standard when it comes to the Kennedy case. I would like to take a moment, fellow EF members, to mention this because it's important to take the evidence and clues in the case and not revert to wild speculation. As much as I believe that Jim Eugenio has written some important analysis on the case, I recently came across a thread on EF where it seems like he is "all Kennedy, all good, all of the time" with no bend or let up in his thinking regarding the Kennedy family; in other words, his way of thinking is the Kennedys do no wrong.  As much as I admire the Kennedys, I and Oliver Stone and I'm sure others know better.

But to take this higher standard a step further, and without attempting to hijack this thread, I would also like to mention to EF readers here that I certainly hope that Dave L also holds himself to a higher standard of the evidence in the case. I say this because it's my undertanding, forum readers, that he is currently writing another book that will have new evidence in the case. Dave L has been teasing fellow EF readers about this and, having worked in the marketing business for over 30 years, I certainly do not want to begrudge Dave L for doing that. It's important to get the word out when you are selling a new book. Ironically enough, I was unaware that when this very forum was started years ago that its initial intention was to do that very thing - to be a place where paid authors such as Jim Eugenio, Larry Hancock, Vince the Secret Service Expert, and Dave L - among others - can come onto this forum, ask questions and comingle with mere mortals such as myself. And of course they can also enourage us mortals to buy their latest book. This was an amazing discovery for me because when you think of a web forum called Education Forum, the idea of selling books certainly does not come to mind first and foremost.

This "selling your wares" concept has even included LNers such as Dave VP to sell his website by pushing the link here, encouraging folks to visit it, to watch his videos and click on his ads.  And of course it's also been a place for LNers like Dave VP to argue the occasional point or two with these authors. There may even be, fellow EF members, an opportunity for lurkers, as Jim DiEugenio so eloquently called someone on this forum, to comingle with said authors.

But to circle back and arrive to that pesky higher standard. I discovered that one of the thrusts of Dave L's new book of new evidence will be that Dr. Malcolm Perry, one of Parkland's doctors who performed the throat incision to try to save Kennedy's life, did not cut into his throat, thus, proving that the body was altered before the autopsy began.  Dave L's proof for this theory is:

** Proof 1 - audio in video interview of Perry does not sync up
** Proof 2 - Bob Groden said Perry told him

I vigorously debated Dave L on this, explaining that Dr. Perry clearly and accurately explained what he did to Kennedy's throat in his 1964 testimony. After being called a shmuck, among other things, by esteemed author Dave L, during our heated debate, and after also being torn a new asshole by other forum members who came to Dave L's defense, it's my understanding that Dave L has not reconsidered writing about this very shaky and speculative and dishonest theory and is moving forward with it. So once again, in the interest of trying to apply a higher standard in this case, I do hope Dave L reconsiders and I do this in support of Dr. Perry, a man who was thrust into the annals of history and is unable to defend himself.


http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/24927-who-changed-the-motorcade-route/?do=findComment&comment=379522

 I know what you were talking about is a step removed from i am bringing up here but the question of how the hierarchies work within these movements, organizations, boards seems part of what you are getting at Good for you for questioning the paltry nature of DL's facts, yjr lack of audio sync on a video seems especially weak vunless he is able to lipread the video of Dr Perry saying I never cut JFk's throat or reasonable facsimile On the second point I assume Groden is confirming Liptons claim of what Perry said It must Must have sucked to be kicked up for just questioning what deserved to be questioned apparently Lifton believes no shots came from behind Unless I need a lot of enlightenment With all his apparent warts I don't think it diminishes what he did on Bethesda and other work, but i a,always open to being corrected

[Michael Chambers]

Quote from: Matt Grantham on June 08, 2018, 10:01:15 PM
  Can anyone tell me if the JFK education Forum allows for new members? I am having trouble finding a way to do so or getting a response from the administrators

I doubt it but a lot of the members here are a lot more conversant with EF than me.

However 5 years ago I tried to join and got the same "brick wall".

Also hand in glove is Greg Burnhams site "assassinationjfk.net", which openly offers you can join but the capta wont work and when you contact about it there is just a :brick wall". At least burham mailed me back explaining how there had been a sophisticated hack and he cant fix the capta. The EF and Him must have formed their own exclusive club I guess.

EDIT Greg Burnham just contacted me and said he has fixed capta and so now forum is open to join again/

RE-EDIT - Lol unfortuneately he hasn't so back to the old "brick wall" suspicion I guess>

Hell that sure is confusing to me about the early 1950's Oswald seeming mysteries - errrrrrmmm because of
the past CIA breeding they knew where to find the perfect patsy??

[Howard Gee]

So now we not only have Harvey and Lee, we also have ugly Marg and attractive Marg.

Only one Robert ?

Did he notice he had two mothers ?

Did he notice that Lee was snatched, replaced by Harvey, and then Lee was framed for the assassination ?

What happened to Harvey after the assassination ?

What happened to the attractive Marg after she gave up Lee to be replaced by Harvey and the ugly Marg ?

WHAT A PLOT THIS WAS !

[Steve Howsley]

So now we not only have Harvey and Lee, we also have ugly Marg and attractive Marg.

Only one Robert ?

Did he notice he had two mothers ?

Did he notice that Lee was snatched, replaced by Harvey, and then Lee was framed for the assassination ?

What happened to Harvey after the assassination ?

What happened to the attractive Marg after she gave up Lee to be replaced by Harvey and the ugly Marg ?

WHAT A PLOT THIS WAS !

Not to mention the two Ruths, Micheals and Georges. Apparently, JFK's double called in sick on the 22nd and despite all of the planning the actual POTUS took the hit. 

[Matt Grantham]

Discredited might be too strong, but the facts I have related regarding his assertion about the alleged confiscated records should be made known in order to evaluate his credibility on the issue. As far as Robert and Stripling, I am simply responding to your reposting of Armstrong's assertion that because Robert thought that LHO attended that school that makes it a fact and supports the H&L theory. But as is always the case with Armstrong there is another explanation-Robert was mistaken as the historical record shows.

 Still feel i am quite a distance in understanding your suspicions. He should have reported to  higher ups in the FBI, or gone to the media because it was suspicious ? May he have simply believed the confiscation was legitimate and they would lead to a report in the Warren Commission report that Oswald attended the years at stripling  that were in those records Can you show that Kudlaty knew that the Stripling records were not in the WC report For the historical record at Beauregard or NY to become a contradiction to the evidence for Oswald at Stripling one must first conclude that there can be only one Oswald

 

[Michael Walton]

So now we not only have Harvey and Lee, we also have ugly Marg and attractive Marg.

Only one Robert ?

Did he notice he had two mothers ?

Did he notice that Lee was snatched, replaced by Harvey, and then Lee was framed for the assassination ?

What happened to Harvey after the assassination ?

What happened to the attractive Marg after she gave up Lee to be replaced by Harvey and the ugly Marg ?

WHAT A PLOT THIS WAS !

Yes Howard you are absolutely right, it's really and truly a ridiculous story.  Here's a boiled down summary of the whole crazy theory:

Secret agents wearing fedoras were over in Hungary post WWII. They found a boy there on the streets that looked exactly like Lee Harvey Oswald.  So they snatched him from the street.  Somehow, they found his Mother who - by a million and one coincidence - looked exactly like the US born Oswald's Mom, except she had a unibrow and never smiled.

So they brought him over, supposedly to be Oswald's double, and from 1953 until 1963 this clone basically lived in the real Oswald's shadow.  Amazingly these kids and their Moms never once crossed paths while they were living parallel lives.

When 11/22 came around, one of the clones was blamed for Kennedy's murder while the other and his clone Mom disappeared forever never to be seen again.

Believe it or not, but if you went up to folks on EF - and I'm sure others - and told the story like above, people such as Larsen, Josephs and Hargrove, they will look you in the face with all sincerity and say "Yep, that's the way it happened.  But oh, by the way, this whole story was NOT because it involved the JFK assassination." As hard to believe as all of this sounds, go over to the EF and you'll find everything I've said here is what they actually believe.