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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: The Truly Magical Bullet
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2018, 01:30:44 AM »
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If the ?Back of the Neck? and the ?Front of the Neck? wounds were not caused by the same bullet, do people who do not accept the SBT look at this as just an incredible coincidence? Two different bullets caused wounds whose locations suggest that they were caused by the same bullet?

Good point.

This doesn't even take into account the fact that Kennedy and Connally are seen reacting simultaneously (or at least close to it).

To believe Kennedy and Connally were hit by two different bullets, you must believe that they were hit at almost the exact same time and the bullets that hit each man caused wounds in the two that align with each other as if they came from one bullet.

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Re: The Truly Magical Bullet
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2018, 01:30:44 AM »


Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: The Truly Magical Bullet
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2018, 03:16:52 AM »
ALL the 3 bullet are amazing bullets.

1st bullet: WC theorizes was fired at closest range to JFK limo, MISSES the ENTIRE limo. That bullet disappeared, never has been found.

2nd bullet: CE 399. Truly a remarkable bullet able to remain almost impervious to a whole lot of different forces applied to the FMJ outer shell, from being deflected by elastic human tissue and muscle, to being b slowed by liquid lung tissue, then squeezed and deflected again by rib bones, and then finally shattering wrist bones while "Tumbling end over end" and entering JCs upper wrist BACKWARDS???, ( causing the jagged wound).

3rd bullet: The head shot Z312-313 bullet. This bullet exploded into at least 6 sizeable fragments of which one is said to have exited from JFK skull and flown over the front seat to the left of Greers head, and flew acrross the green to strike curb near Tague.  The explosion seen in Z film at Z313 from this bullet only lasted 1/18th of a second then evaporated instanteously into the air BEFORE the left hand motorcycle rider, HARGIS, gets spalttered with force he thought was like being hit by "concrete" debris.??


no. 3 bullet is even more amazing considering the orientation of JFKs head at the time of impact is leaning leftward and turned approx 45 degree left, such that if the HSCA diagram for bullet entry and exit (from SE 6th story TSBD), is correct it could only be a very small tangential area of the upper right rear part of the JFK skull, and one has to question an MC FMJ bullet shattering so dramatically into 6 pieces plus leaving trail of fine fragments in brain, from impacting tangentially such a small area of a rigid bone spherical shell.

Offline Howard Gee

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Re: The Truly Magical Bullet
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2018, 03:32:16 AM »
And if you want to observe a blatant double-standard, ask Howard to explain what happened to the "first missed shot" that he believes in and watch him stutter and drool.

Watch this, John. I won't stutter or drool, instead I'll offer a reasonable plausible explanation.

The missed shot probably hit concrete and might have fragmented making it even more difficult to find or recover.

Even if it didn't fragment, there's a huge difference in trying to recover a bullet that could have gone anywhere in or around Dealey Plaza after missing the limo compared to a bullet that supposedly entered JFK's throat.

Of course a common sense distinction like that is lost on the drooling Kooks.

But I digress, this thread is about the droolers explaining what happened to the bullet that supposedly entered JFK's throat, not about what happened to the missed shot or the viability of the SBT.

So John, the ball is back in your court.

If you believe that JFK's throat wound was an entrance wound it's incumbent on you to offer a plausible explanation of what happened to that bullet if you want to be taken seriously and not dismissed as a drooling kook.

As I suspected it would, this thread is well on the way to becoming a debate about the SBT. That is not the purpose of this thread.

Nope, this thread was intended to give the drooling kooks an opportunity to explain where the bullet that supposedly entered JFK's throat went.

So far the droolers haven't been able to do that.

Until they can offer an explanation of where the bullet they insist entered JFK's throat went, they must be regarded as just a bunch of kooks by any reasonable person.

CHALLENGE STILL ON. STEP TO THE PLATE KOOKS.

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Re: The Truly Magical Bullet
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Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: The Truly Magical Bullet
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2018, 05:04:36 AM »

All the CTers are dodging it, so I will ask it again:


Question:

If the ?Back of the Neck? and the ?Front of the Neck? wounds were not caused by the same bullet, do people who do not accept the SBT look at this as just an incredible coincidence? Two different bullets caused wounds whose locations suggest that they were caused by the same bullet?



Does anyone want to step up and say ?Yes, that was a bit of a coincidence. Yes, the conspirators really caught a break there.? Or claim ?No, there was no coincidence. The shooters probably just used magnetic bullets?. [/i]

Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: The Truly Magical Bullet
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2018, 05:13:40 AM »

ALL the 3 bullet are amazing bullets.

1st bullet: WC theorizes was fired at closest range to JFK limo, MISSES the ENTIRE limo. That bullet disappeared, never has been found.


Nothing amazing here. Ballistic tests conducted by Luke and Michael Haag show that the bullet would into very small fragments upon striking the asphalt, leaving a small hole in the asphalt, very much like the damage very busy roads receive on a regular basis. There was no extensive search of the street made. It is no wonder that the bullet, or its fragments, were ever found.




2nd bullet: CE 399. Truly a remarkable bullet able to remain almost impervious to a whole lot of different forces applied to the FMJ outer shell, from being deflected by elastic human tissue and muscle, to being b slowed by liquid lung tissue, then squeezed and deflected again by rib bones, and then finally shattering wrist bones while "Tumbling end over end" and entering JCs upper wrist BACKWARDS???, ( causing the jagged wound).

3rd bullet: The head shot Z312-313 bullet. This bullet exploded into at least 6 sizeable fragments of which one is said to have exited from JFK skull and flown over the front seat to the left of Greers head, and flew acrross the green to strike curb near Tague.  The explosion seen in Z film at Z313 from this bullet only lasted 1/18th of a second then evaporated instanteously into the air BEFORE the left hand motorcycle rider, HARGIS, gets spalttered with force he thought was like being hit by "concrete" debris.??


no. 3 bullet is even more amazing considering the orientation of JFKs head at the time of impact is leaning leftward and turned approx 45 degree left, such that if the HSCA diagram for bullet entry and exit (from SE 6th story TSBD), is correct it could only be a very small tangential area of the upper right rear part of the JFK skull, and one has to question an MC FMJ bullet shattering so dramatically into 6 pieces plus leaving trail of fine fragments in brain, from impacting tangentially such a small area of a rigid bone spherical shell.



Find me one ballistic expert who find any of this remarkable. It may seem remarkable to people who have not run ballistic tests. With a strong emotional belief to find it remarkable since that would mean conspiracy. But no ballistic expert who does ballistic tests in the real world and has learned from observations, the effects of bullets on bone, the effects of bone on bullets, the path of bullets through tissues, the yawing of bullets that they undergo. After 50 years of searching, the CTers have not found such an expert. Just thousands of armchair experts who state how remarkable it is.

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Re: The Truly Magical Bullet
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2018, 05:13:40 AM »


Offline Gary Craig

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Re: The Truly Magical Bullet
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2018, 05:39:09 AM »
All the CTers are dodging it, so I will ask it again:


Question:

If the ?Back of the Neck? and the ?Front of the Neck? wounds were not caused by the same bullet, do people who do not accept the SBT look at this as just an incredible coincidence? Two different bullets caused wounds whose locations suggest that they were caused by the same bullet?



Does anyone want to step up and say ?Yes, that was a bit of a coincidence. Yes, the conspirators really caught a break there.? Or claim ?No, there was no coincidence. The shooters probably just used magnetic bullets?. [/i]

LNer BS.

There was a wound in JFK's back and a wound in the front of his neck.

The wounds weren't dissected or tracked through the body.

After Oswald was murdered in police custody and it became apparent there would be no trial or serious inquiry into the facts the inexperienced autopsy doctors made an uneducated guess that the wound in JFK's back and the one in the front of his neck were connected.

Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: The Truly Magical Bullet
« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2018, 06:34:27 AM »


LNer BS.

There was a wound in JFK's back and a wound in the front of his neck.

The wounds weren't dissected or tracked through the body.

After Oswald was murdered in police custody and it became apparent there would be no trial or serious inquiry into the facts the inexperienced autopsy doctors made an uneducated guess that the wound in JFK's back and the one in the front of his neck were connected.



But if the wounds were caused by two different bullets, how do you explain them being on opposite sides of the neck? Coincidence?

Why are CTers so reluctant to answer this and just want to change the subject?

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Re: The Truly Magical Bullet
« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2018, 06:34:27 AM »


Offline Gary Craig

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Re: The Truly Magical Bullet
« Reply #23 on: May 29, 2018, 06:48:19 AM »

But if the wounds were caused by two different bullets, how do you explain them being on opposite sides of the neck? Coincidence?

Why are CTers so reluctant to answer this and just want to change the subject?

You just don't understand that they weren't both in the neck.

Not to worry though, your equal to your peers.

Swallowing the WC hook, line and sinker does that to your ilk.

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