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Offline Jerry Organ

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Re: Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man found in Bell Film with gif movement!
« Reply #30 on: June 20, 2018, 08:51:05 PM »
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       Related Issue: (1) Image Corroboration (2) Eyewitness Testimony, and (3) Nose Witness testimony = Gun Smoke in that same area of the Picket Fence.
You mean someone like Sam Holland?
The Sam Holland, who went from a solitary "puff of smoke"-"or something" ("I don?t know whether it was a shot. I can?t say that.") on the Knoll in 1963 ...
to claiming 3 of 4 gunshots came from the Knoll in 1968?
I guess he could be one of them-there whatchamacall Nose Witnesses.

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Re: Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man found in Bell Film with gif movement!
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Re: Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man found in Bell Film with gif movement!
« Reply #31 on: June 20, 2018, 10:38:52 PM »
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You mean someone like Sam Holland?
The Sam Holland, who went from a solitary "puff of smoke"-"or something" ("I don?t know whether it was a shot. I can?t say that.") on the Knoll in 1963 ...
to claiming 3 of 4 gunshots came from the Knoll in 1968?
I guess he could be one of them-there whatchamacall Nose Witnesses.


      Sen Yarborough & Mayor Cabel's wife both smelled gun smoke/powder from their positions at the front of the JFK Motorcade.  if You are going to "Quote" a JFK assassination witness, please include your source for those quotations.

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Re: Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man found in Bell Film with gif movement!
« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2018, 08:16:04 PM »
Willis #5 looks like corroboration with the Mark Bell film.... a figure with a helmet/hat...



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Re: Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man found in Bell Film with gif movement!
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Re: Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man found in Bell Film with gif movement!
« Reply #33 on: June 24, 2018, 01:23:48 AM »

All 3 gifs together for comparison... The first two are from the Mark Bell film... The last one is the Willis #5 photograph...







 

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Re: Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man found in Bell Film with gif movement!
« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2018, 09:50:03 PM »
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Willis #5 looks like corroboration with the Mark Bell film.... a figure with a helmet/hat...


Jake, you're getting all of this mixed up.  The so-called "helmet man" is down in the lower bushes by the V-shaped wall.  How can the helmet man also be behind the fence?

How the world can you claim you're seeing helmet man up by the fence in those frames showing pixelated blobs?

As I pointed out before, the helmet man frame in the Z film simply shows one of the old guys running from right to left of Zapruder while he was panning to the right following the car. He captured a few frames of his head in the film and nothing more.  I also posted a link showing how helmet man was completely debunked with a CTer - Bob Groden - in a starring role.


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Re: Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man found in Bell Film with gif movement!
« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2018, 09:50:03 PM »

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Re: Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man found in Bell Film with gif movement!
« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2018, 10:31:29 PM »
Michael, You might have missed my response above. It is possible that Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man is one of three on the steps, as you seem to indicate that Bob Groden suggests - at least someone different than the figure I've highlighted in my posts.

However, this leaves the question open:
Who is this person that appears in the Bell film who seems to be wearing a helmet behind a barrel - and actually shows MOVEMENT in a gif - and seems to be corroborated in Willis #5?

Who is this person? That is my question....

Jake

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Re: Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man found in Bell Film with gif movement!
« Reply #36 on: June 28, 2018, 12:05:21 PM »
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Michael, You might have missed my response above. It is possible that Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man is one of three on the steps, as Bob Groden suggests -

Jake

Groden didn't suggest anything, and had absolutely nothing to do with the study, other than to act as a prop and stand at the exact same location in the exact same position where Emmett Hudson stood on the steps.

All of the research and conclusions were compiled by Bill Miller.

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Re: Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man found in Bell Film with gif movement!
« Reply #36 on: June 28, 2018, 12:05:21 PM »

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Re: Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man found in Bell Film with gif movement!
« Reply #37 on: June 28, 2018, 02:54:26 PM »


        The alleged "Helmet Man" tends to get moved around. Sometimes he's Behind/Peering Over The Wall, and sometimes he's elevated and Behind/Peering Over the Picket Fence.  There is No Way that either of these 2 positions for the alleged Helmet Man are remotely close to where the 3 Guys were standing on The Steps. "That dog don't hunt". If you buy Helmet Man being a reality, then you are adding an additional Unidentified Witness to the JFK Assassination.

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« Reply #37 on: June 28, 2018, 02:54:26 PM »

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Re: Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man found in Bell Film with gif movement!
« Reply #38 on: June 28, 2018, 05:24:30 PM »
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Willis #5 looks like corroboration with the Mark Bell film.... a figure with a helmet/hat...






  Jake your helmet man would have to be standing on a ladder in order be in that position. 

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Re: Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man found in Bell Film with gif movement!
« Reply #39 on: June 29, 2018, 04:17:43 AM »
I suppose that is possible...

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