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Offline Michael Walton

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Re: Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man found in Bell Film!
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2018, 12:02:27 AM »
This image is from an enhanced version of the Bell Film found in the video documentary, The Lost Bullet.
It comes just seconds after the assassination...
Finally...!!



The head in the bushes has already been debunked.  Bob Groden himself was used as a stand-in for the helmet man, photos were taken, and it showed it was one of the old guys running in the direction of Z as Z panned right to follow the car.

You can see the old guy running here.


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Re: Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man found in Bell Film!
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Offline Barry Pollard

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Re: Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man found in Bell Film!
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2018, 02:21:29 AM »
Groden's early analysis of the area above the wall that I mentioned earlier Jake.
https://youtu.be/91RFpzp-2gM?t=1h22m10s

Dale Myers looked into Badgeman and that general area near the wall and although his handling of the Bowers issue doesn't tell the full story, his analysis of the bottle on the wall is rather sweet.
http://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/badgeman_5.htm

Offline Jake Maxwell

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Re: Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man found in Bell Film!
« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2018, 07:51:45 PM »

An interesting comparison to an Irish Helmet...


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Offline Jake Maxwell

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Re: Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man found in Bell Film!
« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2018, 05:51:36 PM »
The head in the bushes has already been debunked.  Bob Groden himself was used as a stand-in for the helmet man, photos were taken, and it showed it was one of the old guys running in the direction of Z as Z panned right to follow the car.

You can see the old guy running here.


That could very well be the case... but it does leave open the question...
"Who is this person... who looks to have on a helmet... with a rifle or scope?"

Offline Michael Walton

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Re: Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man found in Bell Film!
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2018, 12:14:29 AM »
That could very well be the case... but it does leave open the question...
"Who is this person... who looks to have on a helmet... with a rifle or scope?"

Seriously, Jake. It only looks like his head is a "helmet." If there had been someone "sinister" there - pretty much in wide open space - don't you think he'd have been caught? If you think plausibly about it, it makes a lot more sense.

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Offline Jake Maxwell

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Re: Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man found in Bell Film!
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2018, 01:25:36 AM »


Michael, It looks like this figure is behind the fence, and mostly in the shadows. I don't know if this figure would have been an actual shooter, but it does look like a gunman... And I suppose, anyone with a law enforcement uniform on site with a gun, could easily argue that he's on a security detail, etc....
But the main concern here is this image that looks like a man with a helmet and a gun barrel... It just comes out of the shadows behind the grassy knoll... These are not random pixels... I just think this image should be taken into consideration before we draw a firm conclusion...
Jake

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Re: Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man found in Bell Film!
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2018, 04:16:34 PM »
Seriously, Jake. It only looks like his head is a "helmet." If there had been someone "sinister" there - pretty much in wide open space - don't you think he'd have been caught? If you think plausibly about it, it makes a lot more sense.

           Did anyone catch/stop that Tall & Wide Cleaning Truck that was stood right beside the Dal Tex Bld as the JFK Limo turned onto Elm? That thing was large enough to pass for a S.W.A.T. Vehicle & somehow it Immediately Disappeared following the shooting. Dealey Plaza was absolute pandemonium. 
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Offline Jake Maxwell

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Re: Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man found in Bell Film!
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2018, 11:43:47 PM »
MOVEMENT!!!!!!!

gif movement in Bell film!!!!




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Re: Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man found in Bell Film!
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2018, 01:34:54 PM »
MOVEMENT!!!!!!!

Helmet Man confirmed in NIX film!!!!






I found the debunking article that I mentioned above.  This should put this nonsense to rest, Jake.  No one was down there except the old guy running away after the last shot.

Read it over and over again until it sinks in and Bob Groden, a well-known CTer, is actually involved in this debunking:

http://www.jfklancer.com/miller/mysteryman.html


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Offline Jake Maxwell

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Re: Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man found in Bell Film!
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2018, 05:59:09 PM »
I found the debunking article that I mentioned above.  This should put this nonsense to rest, Jake.  No one was down there except the old guy running away after the last shot.

Read it over and over again until it sinks in and Bob Groden, a well-known CTer, is actually involved in this debunking:

http://www.jfklancer.com/miller/mysteryman.html


Michael, It is very possible, as I have mentioned above, that Zapruder's Helmet-Hat Man is one of the three on the steps - or someone other than the person I have identified behind the fence in the Bell film.

This still leaves the question open: Who is this person that appears in the Bell film who seems to be wearing a helmet behind a barrel - and actually shows MOVEMENT in a gif?

I appreciate all the work of others who have studied these things before me, but Groden did not have the best digital versions of these films to work with. If you watch the National Geographic documentary, The Lost Bullet, you'll note that they claim to have enhanced the copies of the films they show, which are supposed to be virtually as clear or clearer than the original (their claim). I have found them to be very, very clear.

Again, we have to deal with these images that show up in the film, and it even shows movement. These are not random pixels - and not film artifacts.

Jake



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