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Offline Mike Orr

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The Cabell Brothers-Helping Planners
« on: May 19, 2018, 11:17:02 PM »
General Charles P. Cabell was the Deputy Director of the CIA under DCI head Allen Dulles . Charles Cabells brother was Earle Cabell who was the Mayor of Dallas during JFK's trip to Dallas . Gen. Charles Cabell was relieved of his position at the CIA by JFK, where he would describe the President as a "traitor". Gen Cabell was the one who called JFK to plead with him for the close air support he believed the President had promised, but which JFK refused to provide.
In Earle Cabells capacity as Mayor, he not only supervised the Police Department but oversaw ceremonial activities, including parade routes and motorcades. There is no way that the Presidential motorcade could have taken the peculiar and improper route it took through Dealey Plaza - which even contradicted the route published in the morning paper - without the approval of the Mayor . In 1965, the House of Representatives passed a bill that required the government to preserve any objects related to the Kennedy Assassination which might contain evidentiary value . Several days later , Representative Earle Cabell who had become "Congressman Cabell" from Texas sent a letter to Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach (who replaced Bobby Kennedy at the Justice Department a year earlier). Cabell felt that it was "surplus" material owned and controlled by the federal government. To shut down those who might be "morbidly curious", Cabell recommended that the casket "be declared the property of the USA and, as such and in keeping with the best interest of the country, be destroyed. As JFK laid in his casket in the East Room in the casket that Gawlers had used to bury him in. To make a decision about whether or not JFK would have an open casket, RFK immediately agreed with Jackies feelings, "She's right, Close it." While the team from Gawlers had done an admirable job of repairing the massive trauma to the Presidents head, JFK was virtually unrecognizable as the man he once was.

The Kennedy Family agreed with Congressman Cabell's sentiments and Attorney General Katzenbach ensured that he casket had no evidentiary value . The Air Force picked the casket up from a secure building at the National Archives just a few blocks from the White House . JFK loved the sea and the Air Force loaded the casket on a C-130 and flew about 100 miles east of Washington D.C. and descended to about 500 feet above the water. Before taking off , the Air Force had drilled over 40 holes into the casket and filled it with 3- 80lb sandbags. It was also secured inside of a wooden crate and sealed shut in a matter so that it wouldn't break apart upon hitting the water. On February 18th, 1966 at 10:00 AM, the C-130's tail hatch was opened and the casket was pushed out of the aircraft . Parachutes softened its fall and the coffin began to sink instantly. The airplane circled the drop zone for about 20 minutes to make sure that the coffin did not resurface. I thought it was a bit odd that Earle Cabell would be the one who pushed to have the casket disposed of even though it made it look like it was all done for JFK because he loved the sea. I feel like the Cabell Brothers had a vendetta against JFK. Of course the head of the CIA , Allen Dulles would be fired by JFK after the Bay Of Pigs fiasco. Allen Dulles would become one of the members of the Warren Commission .


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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2018, 01:03:40 AM »
Good stuff Mike!

Charles P. Cabell was obviously in cahoots with Allen Dulles.

Was it a coincidence that Cabell directed the motorcade route to take a funky turn onto Elm right under lone nut Oswald?

Was it a coincidence that the owner of the TSBD building was one D. Harold Byrd, a right-wing oilman, founder of the Civil Air Patrol, avid Kennedy hater – and a friend of both Clint Murchison and George de Mohrenschildt?

Was it a coincidence that Ruth Paine should learn about openings at the TSBD when it happened to occupy a building that was owned by D. Harold Byrd who already had a connection to Oswald as founder and patron of the Civil Air Patrol, to which Oswald belonged as a youth?

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The process that resulted in Oswald’s hiring at the Book Depository is yet another facet of the story that has gotten short shrift. Usually his presence in the building is portrayed as an accident of fate. Yet recall that the owner of the building was one D. Harold Byrd, a right-wing oilman, founder of the Civil Air Patrol, avid Kennedy hater – and a friend of both Clint Murchison and George de Mohrenschildt. This all could be coincidence, but surely it is the kind of coincidence that invites a few more questions.

Yet when I began researching Byrd, I was stunned to find that his name did not even appear in the vast majority of books by Kennedy assassination authorities, nor was he even interviewed by the Warren Commission. I found further that not only had Byrd employed de Mohrenschildt at his Three States Oil and Gas Co. during the 1950s, and documents show that in September 1962, just weeks before he began to squire Oswald, George de Mohrenschildt incorporated a charity ostensibly devoted to the study of cystic fibrosis – and put D. Harold Byrd’s wife on the board. Mrs. Byrd’s role on the charity board would have created a convenient excuse for de Mohrenschildt to have been interacting with her husband during this period. Other board members included Paul Raigorodsky, J. Edgar Hoover’s good friend and the White Russian community’s godfather.

On May 24, 1963, in Dallas, the U.S. Air Force presented to D. Harold Byrd its Scroll of Appreciation for his work with the Civil Air Patrol (where Oswald was a cadet). Among the Air Force generals he counted as friends was Charles Cabell, Allen Dulles’s CIA deputy director, key Bay of Pigs figure, and brother of Dallas mayor Earle Cabell, also a good friend of Byrd’s.

So how did Oswald end up working at this building that belonged to a friend of de Mohrenschildt’s? The most widely accepted explanation is that Oswald got the job indirectly – via Ruth Paine, the new “friend” who had come to him through the efforts of the de Mohrenschildts, and who was providing a home for Oswald’s wife, Marina, and their daughter. Paine purportedly heard about the Book Depository from a neighbor, one Linnie Mae Randle, whose brother already worked there.

But missing from these accounts is that the neighbor’s brother had obtained his job there just slightly ahead of Oswald. Moreover, the brother had moved from a small Texas town to Dallas shortly beforehand.

Given what we now know about George de Mohrenschildt’s close relationship with Byrd, owner of the Book Depository building, and the chain of events that followed, it is plausible that Oswald’s hiring could have been deliberately orchestrated through this chain to obscure the underlying direct connection.

Then there is the intelligence background of Paine’s family, which was in addition to her mother-in-law’s ties to Dulles’s girlfriend. There was more to this simple Quaker housewife than meets the eye. When Marina Oswald was asked by the Orleans Parish grand jury why she had cut off contact with Ruth Paine after the assassination, she said:
I was advised by the Secret Service not to be connected with her, seems like she was . . . not connected . . . she was sympathizing with the CIA. She wrote letters over there and they told me for my own reputation, to stay away.

Is it possible that the brother (Wesley Frazier) was hired as a player – or in spycraft parlance, a “cut-out” – who could “refer” Oswald to a job in this particular building? This might seem speculative, but other pieces of the puzzle do point in that direction.

I was surprised to learn, for example, that the building was almost completely devoid of tenants until about six months before the assassination. I was even more surprised to learn that the very name, Texas School Book Depository, is misleading. It sounds like a building where the state of Texas kept schoolbooks.

But in fact, Texas School Book Depository was the name of a private company, which had operated out of another location before it moved into the building on Dealey Plaza in the spring of 1963. Until then, the structure was known as the Sexton Building.

The officers of the Book Depository Company were – like Byrd, Murchison, and their core group – outspoken critics of Kennedy, and also major military buffs. Its president turned out to be one Jack Cason, who was also the long-time head of the local American Legion post, a leading forum for hard-line military views.

The company, like all publishers and distributors of books that shaped the perceptions of young Americans – of all Americans – was of keen interest to the propaganda machinery of the U.S. government, and the intelligence community. Allen Dulles was even a member of the advisory board of Scholastic Magazines, whose publications were distributed to schoolchildren throughout the country.

These operations at least seem to offer a plausible explanation of why a man like Cason, affluent and socially connected, deeply involved in anti-Communist and military-themed activities, might choose to bypass more traditional pursuits such as oil and banking in favor of the textbook distribution business.

The CIA was deeply involved, abroad and at home, in creating and distributing literature that would promote democratic Western values in the cold war battle for hearts and minds. As the Senate’s Church Committee would note: “In 1967 alone, the CIA published or subsidized over 200 books, ranging from books on African safaris . . . to a competitor to Mao’s little red book, which was entitled Quotations from Chairman Liu.”

One such book, produced by the Domestic Operations division – the one that was monitoring Oswald – told the story of “a young student from a developing country who had studied in a communist country.” According to the CIA, that book “had a high impact in the United States.”

The important point here is that a division of the CIA was producing general nonfiction books, and it would not be inconceivable that it was also interested in the textbooks distributed by companies such as the Texas School Book Depository.

Allen Dulles even infiltrated that paragon of objectivity the Encyclopedia Britannica, whitewashing the agency’s Bay of Pigs fiasco in an article in the 1963 Book of the Year.
It is worth noting that D. Harold Byrd, a big-game hunter, decided to take his first-ever foreign safari – to Africa – during this period. That removed him from Dallas precisely when the assassination took place.

D. Harold Byrd on safari, circa November 1963
Besides Byrd’s far-right politics, his founding role in the Civil Air Patrol, and his ties to de Mohrenschildt, he evidently rejoiced in Kennedy’s assassination – as suggested by the macabre fact that he arranged for the window from which Oswald purportedly fired the fatal shots to be removed and set up at his home.

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Re: The Cabell Brothers-Helping Planners
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2018, 03:11:41 AM »


In Earle Cabells capacity as Mayor, he not only supervised the Police Department but oversaw ceremonial activities, including parade routes and motorcades. There is no way that the Presidential motorcade could have taken the peculiar and improper route it took through Dealey Plaza - which even contradicted the route published in the morning paper - without the approval of the Mayor .

 


The mayor did not pick the motorcade route. The Secret Service did.



A contradiction in the published route over the route that was actually driven?

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/route.htm

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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2018, 03:24:17 AM »

The mayor did not pick the motorcade route. The Secret Service did.

A contradiction in the published route over the route that was actually driven?

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/route.htm

So who authorized that funky turn onto Elm, right in front of JFK's assassin?

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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2018, 03:51:11 AM »
So who authorized that funky turn onto Elm, right in front of JFK's assassin?

 I heard the claim of Bill Moyers  I believe that came from Palmara
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Offline Jerry Freeman

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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2018, 04:33:54 AM »
So who authorized that funky turn onto Elm, right in front of JFK's assassin?
Which assassin would that be? [probably more than two I believe]

Actually, the route to the Dallas Trade Mart did and still does require that one must use Elm St to access the ramp to Stemmons Freeway.
I wonder what would have happened if it had just rained and rained hard that day :-\
The limo had a hard top in that event.

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« Reply #6 on: May 20, 2018, 07:41:47 AM »
Last fall's JFK Files release included one where the mayor, Earle Cabell signed a secrecy agreement with CIA in the 1950's. I should have saved it and didn't memorize the number.

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Offline Mike Orr

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« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2018, 04:22:11 PM »
Jack , your post about Ruth Paine , De Mohrenschildt , the Cabell brothers , Allen Dulles, D. Harold Byrd, and Clint Murchison and the Civil Air Patrol can not be just coincidental . Russ Baker seems to have a ton of info . The whowhatwhy.org. has so much to read and take in. Real good post , Jack.

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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2018, 08:55:58 PM »
Jack , your post about Ruth Paine , De Mohrenschildt , the Cabell brothers , Allen Dulles, D. Harold Byrd, and Clint Murchison and the Civil Air Patrol can not be just coincidental . Russ Baker seems to have a ton of info . The whowhatwhy.org. has so much to read and take in. Real good post , Jack.

 Indeed ................ But it seems know they are focused on ant Trump stuff which honestly I can hear anywhere

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