Hoover's recently released memo; does it prove conspiracy?

[Royell Storing]

Government officials were rightly concerned that they might be pressured into WWIII if the public were erroneously led to believe that Oswald was involved with the Cubans or Russians.  They had a legitimate, non-conspiratorial motive to convince the public of Oswald's guilt.  First, because the evidence proved Oswald was guilty beyond any doubt.  Second, because there was no reason to believe then or over 50 years later that the Russians, Cubans or anyone other than Oswald was responsible.   Because of Oswald's nutty political background, Hoover and others understood there was a very real possibility that some would try to use that to convince the public of the involvement of the Commies.   And the United States could have been drawn into a war on the basis of a falsehood.

         Not sure how you arrive at, "the evidence proved Oswald was guilty Beyond any Doubt", only 2 Days after the assassination. This sort of so called Justice is  right in line with Judge Roy Bean's, "You'll get a fair trial and the hangin' will be in the morning"

[Richard Rubio]

You are mixing apples and oranges.  Hoover and many others were undoubtedly anti-commies and supported strong measures including military measures in many instances to combat it.  That differs vastly, however, from being pressured by hysterical kooks into a nuclear war with Russia due to a false claim that Oswald was involved with the Russians or Cubans in assassinating JFK.  You have undermined your own fantasy, however, if you are suggesting that Hoover and others involved in the cover up would have wanted a war with Russia or Cuba.  If that were the case, then why not go with the conspiracy nonsense that the Russians or Cubans were behind the assassination rather than putting the blame all on Oswald?   It would have been a golden opportunity.  Instead these anti-communists officials put all the blame on poor old Lee.

I agree and even if, IF stating nuclear war is an overstatement, we certainly had hot wars going on and the red scare still thriving.

Nuke war if we knew the Soviets/Castroites killed our president? Sounds like a possibility.

[Richard Rubio]

         Not sure how you arrive at, "the evidence proved Oswald was guilty Beyond any Doubt", only 2 Days after the assassination. This sort of so called Justice is  right in line with Judge Roy Bean's, "You'll get a fair trial and the hangin' will be in the morning"

That all may be so ... but this isn't about that, it would be about avoiding frightening escalations with the Soviets.

[Gary Craig]

You are mixing apples and oranges.  Hoover and many others were undoubtedly anti-commies and supported strong measures including military measures in many instances to combat it.  That differs vastly, however, from being pressured by hysterical kooks into a nuclear war with Russia due to a false claim that Oswald was involved with the Russians or Cubans in assassinating JFK.  You have undermined your own fantasy, however, if you are suggesting that Hoover and others involved in the cover up would have wanted a war with Russia or Cuba.  If that were the case, then why not go with the conspiracy nonsense that the Russians or Cubans were behind the assassination rather than putting the blame all on Oswald?   It would have been a golden opportunity.  Instead these anti-communists officials put all the blame on poor old Lee.

"If that were the case, then why not go with the conspiracy nonsense that the Russians or Cubans were behind the assassination rather than putting the blame all on Oswald?"

Some think that was the original intent of the people involved, a pretext for invading Cuba etc,  - not me -

but was shelved when officials realized invading Cuba meant war with Russia.

A dead LN assassin cleans up all the loose ends and limits any investigation into who was responsible.

IMO

[Richard Smith]

"If that were the case, then why not go with the conspiracy nonsense that the Russians or Cubans were behind the assassination rather than putting the blame all on Oswald?"

Some think that was the original intent of the people involved, a pretext for invading Cuba etc,  - not me -

but was shelved when officials realized invading Cuba meant war with Russia.

A dead LN assassin cleans up all the loose ends and limits any investigation into who was responsible.

IMO

So it didn't occur to the conspirators in the months or years spent preparing the plot that blaming it on the Cubans would mean war with Russia?  But within a couple hours of the assassination it suddenly dawns on them.  LOL.  And they immediately abandon the entire purpose of the assassination plot and entirely reverse course on a dime to put all the blame on Oswald and cover up the involvement of Cuba.  The whole matter becomes a waste of time at enormous risk.  Those nutty conspirators.

[Jake Maxwell]

Putting an ear-ring on a pig doesn't make the pig smell any better...

Any law enforcement officer who is willing destroy someone's life and family because the officer is trying to save the neighborhood - or even trying to avert WWIII - is just as much a thug deserving of our full disdain, as the law enforcement officer who is willing to destroy someone's life and family to cover-up his involvement in killing a president for whatever reason....

There is no justification here at all... the end result, does not justify the means to that end....

[Richard Rubio]

Putting an ear-ring on a pig doesn't make the pig smell any better...

Any law enforcement officer who is willing destroy someone's life and family because the officer is trying to save the neighborhood - or even trying to avert WWIII - is just as much a thug deserving of our full disdain, as the law enforcement officer who is willing to destroy someone's life and family to cover-up his involvement in killing a president for whatever reason....

There is no justification here at all... the end result, does not justify the means to that end....

Trying to shame others with faux righteousness won't work either.  Oswald may well have been dead already when Hoover wrote this. Yeah, trying to save millions of lives is worse than feeling you've caught the assassin but are unsure.