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Offline Gary Craig

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #248 on: May 30, 2018, 06:37:22 PM »
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #249 on: May 30, 2018, 07:10:34 PM »
?? There were three shots heard. There were 3 shells on the floor. According to Harold Norman, the bolt action was heard three times. Witnesses close to the effects of the shots (eg. the Connallys, Greer, Secret Service) testified as to the effects of each of the three shots. There is nothing in the autopsy findings that precludes those wounds having been made by three bullets.  That may not convince you that the wounds were caused by three shots, but it is a sufficient evidentiary basis for reaching such a conclusion.
And your evidence is??  The FBI fired three aimed shots well within 6.4 seconds, which is, according to the evidence, about the time span of the three shots. There is abundant evidence that the second shot was after the midpoint. According to the FBI it was possible to fire 3 accurate aimed shots with Oswald's MC in 4.6 seconds, so it woud have been possible for Oswald to have fired the second shot 2.3 seconds before the final shot.
I have just given you the evidence. Are you saying that is not actual evidence? Why?

I don't think Norman said he heard the bolt action 3 times.... he described the shots as 'boom>click-click, boom>click-click, boom>click-click'. Seems Dirty Harvey chambered the first bullet before he arrived at the window.

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #250 on: May 30, 2018, 09:44:59 PM »
I don't think Norman said he heard the bolt action 3 times.... he described the shots as 'boom>click-click, boom>click-click, boom>click-click'. Seems Dirty Harvey chambered the first bullet before he arrived at the window.

How many "click-clicks" is that, Bill?

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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« Reply #251 on: May 30, 2018, 11:58:52 PM »

Which makes it all the more strange that he completely missed the 1st shot.
All that was conjecture anyway


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Oswald had to moved into position only AFTER the JFK limo begins down Elm st
   
Would have made sense if he was left handed. 
 
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that Oswald accidentally shot off his 1st shot, because he had his finger ready on the trigger AS he moved and he may have in his haste and anxiety, sqeezed the trigger. 
Not very expert marksman like :)
The shooters were pros for sure.

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #252 on: May 31, 2018, 02:17:25 AM »
I don't think Norman said he heard the bolt action 3 times.... he described the shots as 'boom>click-click, boom>click-click, boom>click-click'. Seems Dirty Harvey chambered the first bullet before he arrived at the window.
? How did three shells end up on the floor?

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #253 on: May 31, 2018, 06:05:45 PM »
? How did three shells end up on the floor?

Well, according to Alyea and Craig, Fritz dropped them there.

Offline Jack Trojan

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« Reply #254 on: May 31, 2018, 09:23:59 PM »
The FMJ bullet entered at the level of C7. It did not smash through C7. It exited at the level of C7.

Didn't smash thru C7? According to your beloved x-ray it did.



According to your beloved pitch angle it did.



So then how did it exit thru a small hole and carry on in a straight line to smash thru more bone then show up on the wrong gurney with no blood, tissue or bone on it and barely any deformation or loss of material?

So you claim that the MB entered at C7 and exited at C7 thru JFK's neck at a 17 deg yaw angle. Re-enactment please (with lasers).
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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #255 on: May 31, 2018, 09:31:54 PM »
Didn't smash thru C7? According to your beloved x-ray it did.


Did not.

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According to your beloved pitch angle it did.


Did not.

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So then how did it exit thru a small hole and carry on in a straight line to smash thru more bone then show up on the wrong gurney with no blood, tissue or bone on it and barely any deformation or lose of material?

It didn't.

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So you claim that the MB entered at C7 and exited at C7 thru JFK's neck at a 17 deg yaw angle. Re-enactment please?

Nope. Finding people willing to be shot would be too difficult. Not only that it would be illegal.