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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #128 on: April 05, 2018, 02:18:32 AM »
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Governor Connally's wife even said they were shot at 2 different times. There is no way one single bullet shot them both. But at the same time, people say they only heard 3 single shots. Also, I thought the first shot was shot at the curb? Then the second hit Kennedy in the neck and the third was the fatal shot to the head?

Alice, Nellie Connally said that they were shot at 2 different times. Nellie Connally was wrong. The Zapruder film leaves no doubt the Kennedy and Connally were hit at virtually the same time.




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Offline Alice Thorton

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #129 on: April 05, 2018, 02:27:08 AM »
Alice, Nellie Connally said that they were shot at 2 different times. Nellie Connally was wrong. The Zapruder film leaves no doubt the Kennedy and Connally were hit at virtually the same time.





Yeah, now that I look at it again you're right. I figured to believe her since she was in the vehicle as well. It crazy how a bullet can exit from one person to another so fast. It looks as if they were hit at the exact same time though? But everyone only heard 3 shots. The head, neck, and curb... Could there have been a 4th shot?

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« Reply #130 on: April 05, 2018, 02:45:54 AM »
Yeah, now that I look at it again you're right. I figured to believe her since she was in the vehicle as well. It crazy how a bullet can exit from one person to another so fast. It looks as if they were hit at the exact same time though? But everyone only heard 3 shots. The head, neck, and curb... Could there have been a 4th shot?

Alice,the best explanation for a strike on the curb is a fragment from the head shot. One fragment struck the inside of the limo windshield. Another struck the chrome piece of the windshield. And a third passed over the top of the windshield and went on the strike the curb.

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Offline Alice Thorton

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« Reply #131 on: April 05, 2018, 03:35:14 PM »
Alice,the best explanation for a strike on the curb is a fragment from the head shot. One fragment struck the inside of the limo windshield. Another struck the chrome piece of the windshield. And a third passed over the top of the windshield and went on the strike the curb.

 That makes more sense now. I just watched a documentary on the history channel and there were a few witnesses who said they saw Oswald on the 6th floor but no one saw anyone on the Grassy Knoll with a gun... But the headshot looks like it came from the front and not the back.

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #132 on: April 05, 2018, 03:54:15 PM »
Alice,the best explanation for a strike on the curb is a fragment from the head shot. One fragment struck the inside of the limo windshield. Another struck the chrome piece of the windshield. And a third passed over the top of the windshield and went on the strike the curb.
That is certainly the case if you believe that CE399 was from the second shot.

But the only evidence we have as to which shot caused James Tague's cheek cut indicates that it was the second shot.  Tague initially was not sure when asked but thought about it and said it was not the first shot and he recalled a shot after being struck and he was sure there were only three shots. 

Also, Greer said he heard or felt a "concussion" from the second shot. He did not experience this on the other shots. There was significant damage to the windshield frame just above and to the right of his head, so it seems reasonable that he would have heard a sound from that.

We also have George Hickey who said that the second shot appeared to miss JFK's head on the right side because he saw his hair fly up on the second shot.  He was looking rearward at z256 (Altgens). The only time JFK's hair flies up is from z273-276.  A shot missing JFK on the right side would have to have struck Gov. Connally on the right side. That fits with everything else. A shot exiting JBC's chest would have struck his wrist which was pressed against his chest.  If it fragmented upon striking the wrist and those fragments deflected away from the point of contact, the fragments would deflect up and forward.  That fits with the evidence of Greer and Tague and the windshield damage.

So the notion that the damage to the windshield and Tague's injury occurred due to fragments from the third shot is inconsistent with the evidence we have.  It is also difficult to understand how fragments deflected upward after passing through JFK's skull.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #133 on: April 05, 2018, 05:26:59 PM »
Alice, Nellie Connally said that they were shot at 2 different times. Nellie Connally was wrong. The Zapruder film leaves no doubt the Kennedy and Connally were hit at virtually the same time.

That's how you want to interpret it.  That doesn't equate to "no doubt".

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #134 on: April 05, 2018, 05:28:49 PM »
Alice,the best explanation for a strike on the curb is a fragment from the head shot. One fragment struck the inside of the limo windshield. Another struck the chrome piece of the windshield. And a third passed over the top of the windshield and went on the strike the curb.

Except Tague said there was another shot after his cheek was stung.

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« Reply #135 on: April 05, 2018, 05:32:11 PM »
  That makes more sense now. I just watched a documentary on the history channel and there were a few witnesses who said they saw Oswald on the 6th floor but no one saw anyone on the Grassy Knoll with a gun...

Both of these claims are untrue.  Brennan was the only one who ever claimed to see Oswald on the 6th floor and he only did so several days later after initially failing to identify him.

There were witnesses who claimed to see a person with a gun on or near the knoll (Jean Hill, Rosemary Willis, Ed Hoffman).