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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #104 on: March 30, 2018, 07:55:39 PM »
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At the time he was arrested, no.  Hypothetically after evidence was gathered, yes.  But then he gets acquitted because of reasonable doubt.

Pretty sure anyone who resists arrest is going to be cuffed... Yeah, that's it!
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Offline Jack Trojan

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« Reply #105 on: March 30, 2018, 08:07:41 PM »
my problems with CE 399:

1. No experiment so far which shoots MC 6.5 ball FMJ bullet thru 2 bodies, then exits spinning and enters a wrist backwards, goes thru, and looks like CE 399 when recovered.

2. No experiment involving shooting an MC 6.5 ball FMJ bullet through 2 bodies has demonstrated the straight line trajectory of the SBT proposed by Myers computer animation.

2b. Nor has any shooting experiment demonstated the bullet trajectory zig zagging as an alternative explanation for all the wounds.

3. The finding of CE 399, and the subsequent chain of custody is in doubt, given the revelation that FBI agent Odum denied  having made report that O.P.Wright had positively identified CE 399 as the bullet he found on stretcher. O.P Wright thought the bullet appeared to be more pointed, as opposed to ball shaped. 

4. No blood splatter on Governor Connallys white hat, which was in proximity to bullet exit point in his chest and close to his wrist, since he still had it gripped in hand after the fact.

5. The convoluted position necessary to explain how Gov Connally could be holding hat upside down and no part of hat be in the bullet trajectory path is problematic and the Z film position at Z 223 does not appear to support a right arm crossed over far enough to be holding hat upside down on the outer left side of JCs left thigh as in this diagram:



Agreed! We can never know if all the injuries were caused by 1 bullet as unlikely as that was.  So if the bullet passed thru JFK and exited tumbling into Connally, then why did the bullet start tumbling after exiting cleanly thru a small hole, which was later obliterated by post-mortem surgery? Is that even possible?

Re the graphic that pretends to bust a myth and given the 7 wounds, this should be followed up with a laser exp to position JFK and Connally in the needed positions to make the MB work. Simple graphics don't cut it, especially when you can do a simple re-enactment.



Position JFK and Connally between the 2 lasers so that all the wounds line up, then find the Z-frame that matches their body positions (unless they are out of view behind the Stemmons sign). Connally said he had turned a hard right to look back at JFK when he was struck.
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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #106 on: March 30, 2018, 08:10:49 PM »
Is this a schoolyard...

Stupid remark.

You claimed that you had not seen anybody here do so, just after John posted a link showing exactly that.


Pretty sure anyone who resists arrest is going to be cuffed... Yeah, that's it!



More stupidity.

Being cuffed after resisting arrest doesn't say anything about whether the arrest itself was legal or even warranted in the first place.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #107 on: March 30, 2018, 08:47:18 PM »
Haven't seen any one here do so

Maybe not since the restart....

Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #108 on: March 30, 2018, 08:48:53 PM »
Pretty sure anyone who resists arrest is going to be cuffed... Yeah, that's it!

To "resist arrest", you have to be told you're being arrested.  And to be arrested, the police have to have probable cause that you committed the crime you are being arrested for.

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #109 on: March 30, 2018, 11:08:40 PM »
To "resist arrest", you have to be told you're being arrested.  And to be arrested, the police have to have probable cause that you committed the crime you are being arrested for.

'Probable cause'  for sure... Lee Harvey Oswald probably caused the deaths of Officer Tippit and John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

To me, it seems that using terminology such as 'detained under suspicion of being involved in the shooting of Officer Tippit' is somewhat fairer to the one about to be detained.
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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #110 on: March 30, 2018, 11:54:33 PM »
'Probable cause'  for sure... Lee Harvey Oswald probably caused the deaths of Officer Tippit and John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

<facepalm>  You're hopeless.  You can't even demonstrate that now.  The police certainly had no basis for that assessment at the time Oswald was arrested.  None.

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #111 on: March 31, 2018, 12:06:35 AM »
At the time he was arrested, no.  Hypothetically after evidence was gathered, yes.  But then he gets acquitted because of reasonable doubt.
He was arrested for the shooting of Officer Tippit, not JFK.  Are you saying there was not enough evidence to arrest him for the murder of Officer Tippit?  Or are you saying there was no evidence at all?
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