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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2018, 08:45:45 PM »
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LOL The bullet would have hit his hands.

Only if you actually believe that the bullet that hit him in the back exited through his throat.

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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2018, 10:29:00 PM »
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LOL The bullet would have hit his hands.

In frame 228 his hand was at his throat in response to being shot there, and not by the MB. The sequence from 228 to 235 shows his response to being shot in the back. Who knows where that bullet ended up, but it certainly wasn't the bullet planted on the wrong gurney in swimming pool condition, if it even exited his body.

CE-399 is the smoking gun. Its journey to the gurney and its impossible trajectory thru JFK's back, zig-zagging around T1 and out of JFK's throat at C6 make it the smoking bullet of this conspiracy. Supposedly, it followed a straight path thru JFK without touching bone which is why it didn't tumble and create a much wider exit wound. This is also why a first responder doctor at Bethesda immediately "opened" the tiny bullet hole to make it look like an exit wound.

The following GIF shows the possible orientations of JFK's body as he sat in the backseat of the limo when the MB struck him. Adding a 17 degree trajectory from the TSBD and the limo, which includes a 5 degree grade on Elm, we can estimate how bent over JFK must have been to make the MB work.



(Cheap n' easy experiment. Use 2 lasers pointed at each other @ 17 degrees and do the experiment on yourself, if you dare. When the low laser strikes your throat, where does the high laser strike your back? Then prove to us all that the SBT is viable. Good luck!)

Why the hell isn't the exact relative location of the back wound on medical record? Example, 2.4 inches right of T1, 4.6 inches deep. Instead we got lame drawings with chicken scratch and a wandering wound..and Humes BURNING HIS NOTES!

Based on the autopsy photo, which has extremely poor provenance, JFK's back wound was just right of vertebrae T1. Supposedly, JFK had a fracture next to T1. However, there is no clean path from T1 to C6 even if JFK was bent over enough to make the MB work.

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2018, 10:50:48 PM »
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(Cheap n' easy experiment. Use 2 lasers pointed at each other @ 17 degrees and do the experiment on yourself, if you dare. When the low laser strikes your throat, where does the high laser strike your back? Then prove to us all that the SBT is viable. Good luck!)



WOW, you just gotta talk to Weidmann, he did this exact same experiment with lasers in Dealey Plaza, maybe the both of you geniuses can solve case this with your laser beams. Hahaha!

Btw Einstein why are you running from your comments in the "How long does it take to alter hundreds of frames of film?" thread because you really blew it this time!



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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2018, 11:36:18 PM »
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WOW, you just gotta talk to Weidmann, he did this exact same experiment with lasers in Dealey Plaza, maybe the both of you geniuses can solve case this with your laser beams. Hahaha!

Btw Einstein why are you running from your comments in the "How long does it take to alter hundreds of frames of film?" thread because you really blew it this time!



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Weidmann did not duplicate this exp and maybe you should take another look at your "100 frames" thread dufus. BURN! ;D

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2018, 12:14:49 AM »
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In frame 228 his hand was at his throat in response to being shot there, and not by the MB. The sequence from 228 to 235 shows his response to being shot in the back. Who knows where that bullet ended up, but it certainly wasn't the bullet planted on the wrong gurney in swimming pool condition, if it even exited his body.


Just as likely he's still reacting to the sensation of the neck transit wound at Z223.

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CE-399 is the smoking gun. Its journey to the gurney and its impossible trajectory thru JFK's back, zig-zagging around T1


Zig-zagging. LOL!

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and out of JFK's throat at C6 make it the smoking bullet of this conspiracy. Supposedly, it followed a straight path thru JFK without touching bone which is why it didn't tumble and create a much wider exit wound.


The tightness of the shirt neckband at the throat exit site didn't allow the typical explosive-type exit wound. Lattimer demonstrated that the further away from the exit wound the neckband was, the larger the exit wound.

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This is also why a first responder doctor at Bethesda immediately "opened" the tiny bullet hole to make it look like an exit wound.


The exit wound was extended to search for the bullet and to assess the missile channel damage to the trachea and surrounding muscles.

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The following GIF shows the possible orientations of JFK's body as he sat in the backseat of the limo when the MB struck him. Adding a 17 degree trajectory from the TSBD and the limo, which includes a 5 degree grade on Elm, we can estimate how bent over JFK must have been to make the MB work.




That's not how the skeleton orients when seated.



It's more like the above if one has a bit of a slouch.



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(Cheap n' easy experiment. Use 2 lasers pointed at each other @ 17 degrees and do the experiment on yourself, if you dare. When the low laser strikes your throat, where does the high laser strike your back? Then prove to us all that the SBT is viable. Good luck!)

Why the hell isn't the exact relative location of the back wound on medical record? Example, 2.4 inches right of T1, 4.6 inches deep. Instead we got lame drawings with chicken scratch and a wandering wound..and Humes BURNING HIS NOTES!


Critics have made the wound "wander".

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Based on the autopsy photo, which has extremely poor provenance, JFK's back wound was just right of vertebrae T1. Supposedly, JFK had a fracture next to T1. However, there is no clean path from T1 to C6 even if JFK was bent over enough to make the MB work.

The autopsy photo shows an entry wound more opposite the C7 level and -- using the neck wrinkles also visible in a lateral-view autopsy photo -- well above the neck exit point. As the bullet was transiting downward, it would pass approximately between the right transverse processes of C& and T1, the latter suffering a non-displaced break due, it was suggested, to pressure from the missile channel.

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2018, 12:35:20 AM »
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Weidmann did not duplicate this exp and maybe you should take another look at your "100 frames" thread dufus. BURN! ;D


Just ignore Mytton's lies and misrepresentations...


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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2018, 01:26:05 AM »
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LOL The bullet would have hit his hands.

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Only if you actually believe that the bullet that hit him in the back exited through his throat.

What do YOU believe? 

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #17 on: January 11, 2018, 07:14:20 AM »
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Only if you actually believe that the bullet that hit him in the back exited through his throat.

Junction of back/neck..

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Re: The Magic Bullet
« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2018, 07:35:56 AM »
From the Clark Panel Report:

The possibility that the path of the bullet through the neck might have been more satisfactorily explored by the insertion of a finger or probe was considered. Obviously the cutaneous wound in the back was too small to permit the insertion of a finger. The insertion of a metal probe would have carried the risk of creating a false passage in part, because of the changed relationship of muscles at the time of autopsy and in part because of the existence of postmortem rigidity. Although the precise path of the bullet could undoubtedly have been demonstrated by complete dissection of the soft tissue between the two cutaneous wounds, there is no reason to believe that the information disclosed thereby would alter significantly the conclusions expressed in this report.

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« Reply #19 on: January 11, 2018, 07:35:56 AM »