Users Currently Browsing This Topic:
0 Members

Author Topic: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer  (Read 342893 times)

Offline Bill Chapman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6513
Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1144 on: April 22, 2019, 07:12:10 AM »
Advertisement
You don't have to shave or add to time to understand that even the best ODIA time schedule is highly improbable and a near impossibility.

1:04 +11 (walking; faster trotting or jogging) = 1:15pm
Solved: The distance can be covered in time to fit the WC narrative.

Regarding time estimates by witnesses, they are just that: Estimates.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2019, 07:25:26 AM by Bill Chapman »

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1144 on: April 22, 2019, 07:12:10 AM »


Offline Bill Chapman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6513
Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1145 on: April 22, 2019, 07:20:53 AM »
Because they were manipulated to do so, and they trusted authority.

... because you said so.
« Last Edit: April 22, 2019, 08:59:56 AM by Bill Chapman »

Offline Bill Chapman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6513
Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1146 on: April 22, 2019, 08:12:36 AM »
Not only doesn't the video answer the simple question ....It's nothing but BS.....   

It is a FACT that Mrs Roberts said that she saw "Mr Lee" ( Lee Oswald) standing at the bus stop in front of the rooming house at 1026 no Beckley at 1:04 pm

And it is a fact that Mrs Markham said in a sworn affidavit the Officer Tippit was shot at 1:06 pm....   Mrs Marham said the a few minutes prior to the shooting she watched Tippit cruise slowly along behind a young man who was walking east on 10th street and the Tippit called the man over to his cruiser and Tippit and the young man talked like friends through the wing window on Tippit's cruiser and then Tippit got out of the car and was shot by the young man.    That shooting happened at 1:06.....and Tippit was following the man prior to 1:06.....  So the man could NOT have been Lee Oswald, who was standing at the bus stop at 1026 North Beckley which was a mile away , at the time Tippit was talking to the man through the window of his cruiser.....

So Markham is a dingbat/oddball/whatever according to you lot, yet has perfect memory when it comes to remembering precise times.

As for Earlene, show us where she said anything about Oswald standing at the bus stop at 1:04. Or even committed to a 4 minute timeframe for Oswald putting on a jacket. She said no more than 3-4 minutes which just as well could have been 2 minutes.

Earlene Roberts Affidavit
https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh7/pdf/WH7_Roberts_aff.pdf
« Last Edit: April 22, 2019, 08:59:09 AM by Bill Chapman »

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1146 on: April 22, 2019, 08:12:36 AM »


Online Martin Weidmann

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7395
Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1147 on: April 22, 2019, 12:45:08 PM »
1:04 +11 (walking; faster trotting or jogging) = 1:15pm
Solved: The distance can be covered in time to fit the WC narrative.

Regarding time estimates by witnesses, they are just that: Estimates.


And so you create your own reality! The WC narrative is also an estimate.

Markham left home just after one and a one block walk got her to 10th/Patton at around 1.06. By 1.15 she would have been at the bus stop on Jefferson.

Bowley looked at his watch when he arrived at the scene and saw it was 1.10.

The ambulance with Tippit in it arrived at the hospital at 1.15.


Offline Walt Cakebread

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7322
Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1148 on: April 22, 2019, 03:35:16 PM »
So Markham is a dingbat/oddball/whatever according to you lot, yet has perfect memory when it comes to remembering precise times.

As for Earlene, show us where she said anything about Oswald standing at the bus stop at 1:04. Or even committed to a 4 minute timeframe for Oswald putting on a jacket. She said no more than 3-4 minutes which just as well could have been 2 minutes.

Earlene Roberts Affidavit
https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh7/pdf/WH7_Roberts_aff.pdf

So Markham is a dingbat/oddball/whatever according to you lot, yet has perfect memory when it comes to remembering precise times.

Pssst Crapman.... Mrs Markham didn't need to be a genius to know what time that she was required to be at the restaurant and ready to go to work.   So she knew what time the bus arrived ( 1:12) to get her to the restaurant on time.  Markham wanted to be at that bus stop a few minutes before it's scheduled arrival time (1:12)   Thus she was on her way to the bus stop at 1:06 when she saw officer JD Tippit shot by a young man who was wearing a tan jacket with a WHITE shirt beneath the jacket and black slacks.  But prior to the murder she had watched Tippit tailing the young man who was walking east on the south side of 10th street. At the very time that she was watching Tippit stop and call the young man over to his cruiser Mrs Roberts was observing Lee Oswald standing at a bus stop in front of the rooming house at 1026 N Beckley....Which was a mile away from 10th and Patton.....

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1148 on: April 22, 2019, 03:35:16 PM »


Offline John Iacoletti

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10810
Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1149 on: April 22, 2019, 07:26:28 PM »
The witnesses attending the lineups were NOT asked which man of the four most resembled the man they saw at the scene.  No.

The witnesses were asked if the man they saw at the scene was any of the four men placed before them.

Mrs. MARKHAM. Well, let me tell you. I said the second man, and they kept asking me which one, which one. I said, number two. When I said number two, I just got weak.

Asking her ?which one which one? is equivalent to asking her to pick the one who most resembled the man she saw.

We see manipulation with Callaway as well:

Mr. CALLAWAY. No. And he said, "We want to be sure, we want to try to wrap him up real tight on killing this officer. We think he is the same one that shot the President. But if we can wrap him up tight on killing this officer, we have got him."


Offline John Iacoletti

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10810
Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1150 on: April 22, 2019, 07:29:02 PM »
1:04 +11 (walking; faster trotting or jogging) = 1:15pm
Solved: The distance can be covered in time to fit the WC narrative.

LOL. He stopped jogging and immediately shot Tippit. No Tippit following him slowly. No little chat. No time for Tippit to exit the car and walk around the front.

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1150 on: April 22, 2019, 07:29:02 PM »


Offline John Iacoletti

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 10810
Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1151 on: April 22, 2019, 07:30:57 PM »
... because you said so.

Because there is evidence of manipulation. Unlike your story about Oswald not wanting Marina to see what he was doing on the porch in New Orleans.