Users Currently Browsing This Topic:
0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.

Author Topic: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer  (Read 101512 times)

Offline Jerry Freeman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2141
Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #580 on: June 16, 2018, 05:20:21 AM »
The affidavit then is accurate ...the confrontation occurred at 1:06 PM?


Offline Matt Grantham

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 867
Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #581 on: June 16, 2018, 05:32:59 AM »
Neither Buhk nor Carroll mentioned an arrest on the balcony or any questioning of any suspects on the balcony. You're still completely wrong there.

Cunningham and Toney did start asking questions of a guy sitting on or next to the stairs on the balcony, but it doesn't sound like he'd risen to the level of actually being a suspect. Toney said the "manager on duty" told them that "this subject had been in the theater since about 12:05," and that was the end of it.

 Who is the manager on duty, and why is he saying the guy was there before they opened?

Offline Matt Grantham

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 867
Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #582 on: June 16, 2018, 05:35:55 AM »
Sorenson, as usual, is wrong.  Both Doughty and Dhority positively identified the shells given to them by each of the Davis sisters.

Whenever you're ready to actually show what the problem is with the chain of custody of these two shells, I'd love to have a look.  So far, all I have seen is you bitch about how there is a problem, but I haven't seen you show what the problem is.

Are either of them still around? That is chain of custody in my book

 Speaking of missing stuff Apparently neither of the wallets, Westbrook's and the one seized at the theater were neither photographed or inventoried by DPD The link also contains another ruined DPD film of Oswald's possessions and a little bit about the Minox

http://harveyandlee.net/NID98.htm
« Last Edit: June 16, 2018, 05:47:41 AM by Matt Grantham »

Online Martin Weidmann

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2271
Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #583 on: June 16, 2018, 05:42:26 AM »

Exactly what expertise do *you* have in determining proper chain of custody. I mean, outside of the JFK case?


Silly question, but I'll answer it nevertheless...

I am no different as any average juror in a criminal case. Like any other juror, I don't have to be an expert on anything to make my own determination about the validity and veracity of the evidence presented to me...

Tim whined about the fact that he feels my bar is raised to high and implied that courts of law have a lower standard. He made the claim, not me... so, why not let him answer the question?

If he needs you to defend him or run interference for him, I am sure he will ask you!

Offline Mitch Todd

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 402
Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #584 on: June 16, 2018, 05:43:50 AM »
Based on your fabricated court scene dialogue you evidently didn't comprehend my answer to your trivial question.

Hint: "evidence".

I'm aware of what you were sorta trying to get at. You've slipped the surly bonds of the real world to drift the rarified, sulfone-scented air of the hypothetical. I'm stuck here on Earth, tied to this pesky, real-world case involving this Oswald guy. You know, the one who was arrested in front of all those witnesses and walked to the police cruiser in full view of a big crowd and news cameras. The fact of arrest is self-evident here. Any attempt to disprove that it happened is silly unless you wish to war with reality itself. Good luck with that.

Offline Bill Brown

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1045
Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #585 on: June 16, 2018, 05:51:00 AM »
We do know where the shells were found, unless you have reason to doubt the stories of Domingo Benavides, Barbara Davis and Virginia Davis.  Please post what you've read which casts doubt on where these witnesses said they found the shells.  Go on.

There is not a single piece of problem with the chain of custody of the two Davis shells.

Except neither one confirmed that either shell in evidence were the same as the ones that were allegedly found on November 22, 1963.

That means absolutely nothing.

Two young women could not confirm that the shell in evidence was the shell they found.  You've really got a winner there.  Do you foolishly believe that is supposed to mean something?

Detective Dhority later identified a shell in evidence as the one given to him by Virginia Davis.

Captain Doughty later identified a shell in evidence as the one pointed out to him by Barbara Davis.

Offline Bill Brown

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1045
Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #586 on: June 16, 2018, 05:57:45 AM »
Well , these guys are all attorneys . Experts in trial law. It doesn't matter if he did it or not. The I's aren't dotted and the T's aren't crossed. His civil rights were violated (so the attorneys claim) so he's innocent.


These are the same clowns that come on here and claim they don't have a horse in the race. They don't care if Oswald did it or not. They sit their lame asses on the fence and don't have the sack to just fess up and say they're CONSPIRACY THEORISTS. In spite of the fact that the only people that they oppose are Lone Nut theorists. They sit there and watch nutbag after nutbag come on here and spew the most insane foolish fish tales and NEVER say a word . What a collection of frauds. You know who you are. We know who you are.

Well said and I totally agree.

Online Steve Howsley

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 441
Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #587 on: June 16, 2018, 06:02:31 AM »
Well , these guys are all attorneys . Experts in trial law. It doesn't matter if he did it or not. The I's aren't dotted and the T's aren't crossed. His civil rights were violated (so the attorneys claim) so he's innocent.


These are the same clowns that come on here and claim they don't have a horse in the race. They don't care if Oswald did it or not. They sit their lame asses on the fence and don't have the sack to just fess up and say they're CONSPIRACY THEORISTS. In spite of the fact that the only people that they oppose are Lone Nut theorists. They sit there and watch nutbag after nutbag come on here and spew the most insane foolish fish tales and NEVER say a word . What a collection of frauds. You know who you are. We know who you are.


 Thumb1: Thumb1: Thumb1:

Offline Mitch Todd

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 402
Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #588 on: June 16, 2018, 06:03:32 AM »
Who is the manager on duty, and why is he saying the guy was there before they opened?

That I can't tell you, it's just what was in Toney's report. Anything more, you are welcome to investigate.

Offline Matt Grantham

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 867
Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #589 on: June 16, 2018, 06:10:43 AM »
Not sure if this has been on the thread

   
"And this one that they missed hit him in the button. And it fell off the ambulance still in this button. And I would give a million dollars if I had never kicked that thing out."

Ambulance driver Eddie Kinsley 1978 Golz interview

 

 

Mobile View