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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #376 on: June 07, 2018, 12:14:25 AM »
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The police approached a person acting suspiciously in the vicinity of a murder. They were going to question him.

You don't "question" somebody by ordering him on his feet and attempting an illegal search.  Looking "funny" to a shoe salesman does not constitute "probable cause".

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All Oswald had to do was explain himself like the guy in the library did when the police descended on him.

Sure, blame the victim.

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  Unfortunately for Oswald, he couldn't do that because he was guilty.

There you go again, just assuming the thing you're supposed to be proving.

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So he assaults a police officer

You have that backwards.   The illegal search was an assault on Oswald.  He was defending himself.

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and gets taken in as a murder suspect due to his behavior.

What evidence did they have to arrest him for murder?  Looking "funny" to a shoe salesman?

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  What you are suggesting is completely ludicrous.  The DPD officers were searching for Tippit's killer.  They had a general description.

The description that Postal gave the police dispatcher was nothing like the description that the 10th and Patton witnesses gave.  So why would the police consider this man a "suspect"?

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  They were not looking for or even had a clue who Lee Harvey Oswald was until after he is arrested.  They were looking for a suspicious person in the area who might be the killer.  That turned out to be Oswald.  The subsequent investigation confirmed he was the murderer.  Case closed. Excellent police work with the assistance of some astute citizens.

The subsequent investigation confirmed nothing of the kind.  But even if it did, are you saying the ends justify the means?  Civil rights exist for a reason.
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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #377 on: June 07, 2018, 03:58:45 AM »
So he chatted with Bill Chapman? Why?

His amazing wit and charm, no doubt.

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #378 on: June 07, 2018, 05:15:10 AM »
How about somebody with a super ego who was crushed by being fired by JFK?   

That is exactly what RFK Jr said today.........
Pointing a finger at Gen Charles Cabell and his brother Earle*
Trump again reneged on his promise to open all the files.

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June 6 2018
As seen on Tucker Carlson Tonight
 
Tucker Carlson spoke with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. about President Donald Trump's decision to continue to keep official documents about his uncle's assassination under lock and key from the public.

President John F. Kennedy was assassinated on November 22, 1963 as he rode in a motorcade through Dallas. Lee Harvey Oswald was implicated in the murder before also being killed, by nightclub owner Jack Ruby.

Robert Kennedy said he shared Carlson's "mystification" as to why Trump decided to continue to keep the files private until the next possible publication date in 2021.

"What possible national security interest could be served at this point?" Carlson asked.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/06/06/robert-f-kennedy-jr-reacts-donald-trump-keeping-jfk-assassination-documents-hidden-until

Until 2023?

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Here is the first major revelation from the historic release of previously withheld government records on the JFK Assassination: the mayor of Dallas when President John F. Kennedy was killed in that city was a CIA asset.
https://whowhatwhy.org/2017/08/02/dallas-mayor-jfk-assassination-cia-asset/


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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #379 on: June 07, 2018, 05:43:09 AM »
Acting suspiciously? To whom? Was it Postal as first claimed? Or the mysterious usher as it was secondly claimed? Or was it Brewer as finally claimed because he saw a man supposedly "ducking, running and looking funny"?

In the vicinity? The JDT murder scene was six blocks away for goodness sake.

Question him? Why? Is it in the police manual that supposed cop killers like to take in a movie afterwards? 🍿

That's it. It's all over now.

Poor dumb cop.

...poor dumb Caprio.

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #380 on: June 07, 2018, 06:53:50 AM »
You don't "question" somebody by ordering him on his feet and attempting an illegal search.  Looking "funny" to a shoe salesman does not constitute "probable cause".

Sure, blame the victim.

There you go again, just assuming the thing you're supposed to be proving.

You have that backwards.   The illegal search was an assault on Oswald.  He was defending himself.

What evidence did they have to arrest him for murder?  Looking "funny" to a shoe salesman?

The description that Postal gave the police dispatcher was nothing like the description that the 10th and Patton witnesses gave.  So why would the police consider this man a "suspect"?

The subsequent investigation confirmed nothing of the kind.  But even if it did, are you saying the ends justify the means?  Civil rights exist for a reason.

The President had been assassinated. A police officer had just been murdered. Brewer, an alert citizen, was instrumental in closing the dragnet on the current prime suspect. Today, Homeland security asks citizens today in their 'See/Say' campaign (and like Jesse Curry asked citizens in a filmed announcement at the outset of the manhunt, to report any persons who seem to be acting suspiciously). Brewer himself was afraid to follow the (to him) suspiciously-acting character in the store window, since he might be armed, but did so anyway.

Funny haha or funny strange, John?
Brewer also said the guy he saw in his window look scared.

I was stopped by police and questioned while walking down the street one day. They asked me what I was doing, saying a blonde man was seen breaking into a house (but ran away). The catch was that I'm not blonde. My point is that the DPD were stopping practically anyone who was out on the street. After all, they wouldn't know at that point whether there were other shooters involved, and might have been on the run. And innocent persons would want to cooperate one would think.

"The illegal search was an assault on Oswald. He was defending himself"
>>>You weren't there... Brewer was, and testified that Oswald threw the first punch.
Now is this where you tell us what Brewer saw or didn't see, John?
Or is he just a liar, like anyone who disagrees with you?

Tell us why Oswald would resist if he was innocent.
Oswald served up his guilt on a silver platter the moment he threw that punch.

Mr. BELIN - Who hit who first?
Mr. BREWER - Oswald hit McDonald first
, and he knocked him to the seat.
Mr. BELIN - Who knocked who?
Mr. BREWER - He knocked McDonald down. McDonald fell against one of the seats. And then real quick he was back up.
Mr. BELIN - When you say he was----
Mr. BREWER - McDonald was back up. He just knocked him down for a second and he was back up. And I jumped off the stage and was walking toward that, and I saw this gun come up and----in Oswald's hand, a gun up in the air.   
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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #381 on: June 07, 2018, 07:21:15 AM »
That is exactly what RFK Jr said today.........
Pointing a finger at Gen Charles Cabell and his brother Earle*
Trump again reneged on his promise to open all the files.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/06/06/robert-f-kennedy-jr-reacts-donald-trump-keeping-jfk-assassination-documents-hidden-until

Until 2023?

*https://whowhatwhy.org/2017/08/02/dallas-mayor-jfk-assassination-cia-asset/

2021

RFK Jr. is promoting his new book. He brings up the removal of the limo windshield as something people should know about, as if that's been held back, LOL



Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #382 on: June 07, 2018, 07:57:58 AM »
You mean James Files? All the way from Chicago? Man, that was some shooting.

Maybe he means one of the 48 shooters on the knoll disguised as foliage, trees and branches.

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #383 on: June 07, 2018, 08:06:18 AM »
So he chatted with Bill Chapman? Why?

Why do you assume Fetzer chatted with me? Try to absorb what you read, for a change.