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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #150 on: May 23, 2018, 07:46:59 AM »
I know Bill Brown is big on the honest/dishonest thing ... were these honest mistakes by Belin?

I'm still waiting for your cite for the (mistaken) claim that Hill stated that AUTO was stamped on the shells.  When did Hill say this?

Offline Jerry Freeman

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« Reply #151 on: May 23, 2018, 07:42:39 PM »
Correct, I shouldn't have put Hill in my reply.

Oh..it's just the word game again >:(

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   [1:34]   241 (Ptm. J.P. Hollingsworth)    10-4. Whereabouts on the third floor?         
     550/2 (Sgt. G.L. Hill)    550/2.         
     Dispatcher    Go ahead, car 2.         
     550/2    The shells at the scene indicate that the suspect is armed with an automatic 38, rather than a pistol.         
     Dispatcher    10-4.
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpdtapes/tapes3.htm

 The amazing thing is the amount of communication listed between 1:34 and 1:35.
See for yourselves! It all looks fudged to me.

Mr. On the Scene Gerald Hill was operating on both channels of the radio...

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   550/2 (Sergeant Gerald L. Hill)    A witness reports that he last was seen in the Abundant Life Temple about the 400 block. We are fixing to go in and shake it down.
               Dispatcher    Is that the one that was involved in the shooting of the officer?
               550/2    Yes.
               Dispatcher    They already have him.
How did the dispatcher know 'they already have him'?  Telepathy? There was a lot of that on that day. 
    
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550/2 (Sergeant Gerald L. Hill)    No, that wasn't the right one. (1:44 p.m.)
So, how did Hill know that?

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[1:46]   Dispatcher    . . . en route to Texas Theater. Have someone cover off the rear of the theater at the fire escape.
    211 (Ptm. R. Hawkins)    211. There's about five squads back here with me now.

Five squads. They had their man.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #152 on: May 23, 2018, 11:56:32 PM »
However, we run into one MAJOR problem. Pulling the .38 on the cop. In my opinion, not the actions of an innocent man, unless something else is at play here.

There is ZERO evidence that Oswald pulled a gun on a cop in the Texas Theater.

Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #153 on: May 23, 2018, 11:57:21 PM »
There is ZERO evidence that Oswald pulled a gun on a cop in the Texas Theater.

Keep telling yourself that.

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« Reply #154 on: May 23, 2018, 11:58:24 PM »
And surprise, surprise, surprise; fibers identical to the shirt he was wearing when arrested in the TT were found in the jacket he ditched in the lot behind the Texaco station.

...and by "identical", Howard means "similar".

Offline Bill Brown

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« Reply #155 on: May 24, 2018, 12:01:23 AM »
...and by "identical", Howard means "similar".

They were more than only similar.  They were an exact match.  The shirt fibers and the fibers found inside the jacket were the same exact shade, color and twist as each other.  They were a 100% match.

Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #156 on: May 24, 2018, 12:02:38 AM »
Yes. John Gibson, George Applin, and Johnny Brewer.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/gibson.htm

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/applin1.htm

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/brewer_j.htm

Applin didn't say he saw Oswald with a gun.  He said he guessed that it was Oswald because he had on a short sleeve shirt.  The only problem is that Oswald did not have on a short sleeve shirt.

Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #157 on: May 24, 2018, 12:04:55 AM »
Acquilla Clemons was NOT a witness to the "slaying of Patrolman Tippit".

Neither were Benavides, Scoggins, Davis, Davis, Callaway, Patterson, Reynolds, or Brock.  But that's never stopped you.

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« Reply #158 on: May 24, 2018, 12:10:44 AM »
Benavides is in the opposite direction for the Davis girls, yet he says Oswald walked straight towards him? Did he then turn and go in the opposite direction? By the way, why do you call them girls? Were they minors?

Virginia was.  She claimed to be 16, but Tom Scully found documentation that she wasn't even that old and she lied about it.

Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #159 on: May 24, 2018, 12:14:07 AM »

Okay.  So now all you have to do is show that these shells were stamped AUTO.


You better check again.  Odum showed the shells to Doughty and Dhority.  Dhority positively identified the shell he received from Virginia Davis.  Doughty positively identified the shell he received from Barbara Davis.  Odum also showed the shells to Barnes.  Barnes identified his marks on the other two shells.  Poe probably never placed his marks on the shells in the first place.

Great.  Now all you have to do is prove that the shells that Dhority and Doughty identified were actually found "about one hundred feet away over at the corner".

 

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