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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #104 on: May 21, 2018, 06:37:50 AM »
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Who the hell is smoking a stogie and mugging to the camera as they apprehend the assassin of the POTUS?

That's Paul Bentley... and how do you know he's "mugging to the camera"?  You do realize you're looking at a frozen moment in time.  Right?  Couldn't Bentley have simply glanced at the camera for a second or two as he assessed who was in his way as they made their path to the waiting car?

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Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #105 on: May 21, 2018, 08:32:45 AM »
This typifies the problem for the conspiracy kooks and Saint Oz defense team.

In one breath it's doubtful that a half blind woman could have noticed whether Saint Oz was wearing a jacket, in the next breath the kooks want to argue that the jacket she saw was a different color.

In Kookland it's not likely someone in the same room would notice if Saint Oz was wearing a jacket, but it is likely she'd be able to positively tell you if the jacket was grey or white.

For those not living in Kookland this isn't too hard to figure out.  Saint Oz is wearing a jacket when he leaves his room. He's not wearing and doesn't have a jacket with him when arrested in the TT. The person suspected of murdering JDT is seen fleeing through a lot where a jacket is found that just happens to contain fibers that match the shirt Saint Oz is wearing when arrested.

Now back to our regularly scheduled 'there is no evidence' nonsense.

In one breath it's doubtful that a half blind woman could have noticed whether Saint Oz was wearing a jacket, in the next breath the kooks want to argue that the jacket she saw was a different color.

You mean like Frazier who wasn't paying much attention to the paper bag?

Besides, Baker believed Oswald was wearing a jacket when he saw him at the TSBD, right?

In Kookland it's not likely someone in the same room would notice if Saint Oz was wearing a jacket, but it is likely she'd be able to positively tell you if the jacket was grey or white.

And only in la la la ln land would one assume that a half blind woman, who is concentrating on getting the TV to work (which means that she had her back turned to a large part the living room) would make a perfect observation in the few seconds it took Oswald to cross the room, yet also assume that a man like Frazier who was close to Oswald and his package for a much longer time would get his observations so wrong that he could not recognize the paper bag when it was shown to him only hours later on the same day!

And btw Roberts did not say the jacket was grey or white.... she rejected the jacket shown to her because she said the one she had seen was darker

For those not living in Kookland this isn't too hard to figure out. Saint Oz is wearing a jacket when he leaves his room. He's not wearing and doesn't have a jacket with him when arrested in the TT. The person suspected of murdering JDT is seen fleeing through a lot where a jacket is found that just happens to contain fibers that match the shirt Saint Oz is wearing when arrested.
 


You mean those who believe their own assumptions are evidence? No wonder you repeat the same ramblings all over again....

Now back to our regularly scheduled 'there is no evidence' nonsense.

Who said there is no evidence? Sure there is, it just doesn't support the assumptions you freely attach to it!
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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #106 on: May 21, 2018, 08:39:05 AM »


Hi Howard, nice pick-up. If anything "a half blind woman" may have difficulty in differentiating a subtle shade difference caused by two totally different locations but the specific mention of Oswald zipping up his jacket is unmistakable.
Why did Oswald ditch his jacket?



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but the specific mention of Oswald zipping up his jacket is unmistakable.

Johnny, please.... did you forget that her own employer warned the WC about Roberts being a person who makes up stuff?

But if it wasn't for that minor problem, you actually might have had something .... you know, like Frazier's observation that Oswald's package fitted between the palm of his hand and tucked under his shoulder.... now that specific mention is truly unmistakable, right?

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« Reply #107 on: May 21, 2018, 08:55:48 AM »
Sometimes you just have to laugh about the circular arguments of a simpleton.....

Witnesses at the Tippit scene claimed the man they saw was wearing a jacket. Ergo, if Oswald did not leave the roominghouse wearing a jacket, he might just not have been the man those witnesses saw.

So enter Earlene Roberts, the half blind story teller who was concentrating on getting the TV to work, who is the only person who could possibly say if Oswald left wearing a jacket or not.....and, despite her credibility problem with honking police cars etc, mr. simpleton blindly accepts her word for it, because..... wait for it........... other witnesses saw a guy wearing a jacket.....pfffffffff

Let's hope the day will never come that mr simpleton understands circular logic.... the shock of becoming aware might just prove too much for him.

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #108 on: May 21, 2018, 10:29:27 AM »
All the WC/LN BS about the jacked has already been picked apart in this thread:

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,124.0.html

Since when does that stop a LNr from repeating the same old claims again and again?

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #109 on: May 21, 2018, 01:04:50 PM »
The ambulance was there in a flash.

Seems like everything happened "in a flash" that day :-\

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Offline Matt Grantham

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #111 on: May 21, 2018, 07:54:22 PM »

"Dallas researcher Michael Brownlow interviewed Doris Holan, who lived directly across the street from the shooting, in a second-floor apartment at 409 East Tenth (researcher Bill Pulte accompanied Brownlow on one of his two interviews with Holan shortly before her death in 2000). She said that a police car had appeared in the driveway between the two houses (404 and 410 East Tenth) at the spot where Tippit was killed. Whether Tippit did so intentionally or coincidentally, he had blocked that driveway, which led to an alley at mid-block, parallel to both East Tenth and Jefferson Boulevard. Tippit, while driving eastward, may have been trying to use his squad car to prevent another police car from leaving the driveway. Holan said when she heard shots and looked out her window, the other police car was heading down the driveway approaching Tippit's vehicle.

... 'She saw a man leaving the scene, moving westward toward Patton... Near the (second) police car she also saw a man in the driveway walking toward the street, where Tippit's car was parked.' That man went up to where Tippit was lying, looked down to inspect the officer's head, and retreated back down the driveway, with the unidentified police car backing up at the same time to the alley. So Holan reported at least three suspicious men at the scene, including two men on foot and the driver of the second police car. Whoever killed Tippit may have fled in that car or in another vehicle or on foot through that alley adjacent to the shooting scene. And Tippit may have been shot by two men, a possibility the ballistics evidence, with different kinds of ammunition, might suggest, even though that evidence is unreliable. Most (not all) witnesses reported a man fleeing around the corner and up Patton toward Jefferson, which would be compatible with Holan's account.