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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #856 on: February 09, 2019, 10:01:57 AM »
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What was the description of the revolver in the advertisement on the page that Oswald clipped the coupon from? Or of any of the revolvers on that page.  We don't have that, do we? So, how can it be said that there's a line item "that matches the alleged pistol of LHO's on the order form that is left BLANK"?

What was the description of the revolver in the advertisement on the page that Oswald clipped the coupon from? Or of any of the revolvers on that page.  We don't have that, do we?

I don't have the advertisment, that's for sure, but that doesn't mean that you can simply use another advertisment from May 1962 to make a point.

What we do have is Hidell's order coupon and it mentions a 39 S & W Spec. for 39,95 and a 38 St. W. 2'' Bbl for 29,95, with the latter being the one that apparently was ordered.

How 38 St. W. 2'' Bbl becomes or relates to the S & W 38 Spec 2" Commando on the invoice (Michaelis 2) is a mystery to me.

So, how can it be said that there's a line item "that matches the alleged pistol of LHO's on the order form that is left BLANK"?

Why ask me? I never said that.
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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #857 on: February 09, 2019, 10:58:49 PM »
Do you believe Lee Oswald killed J.D. Tippit?

No.  I have no good reason to believe that.  Unfair and biased lineups are unreliable.

You lack the common sense required to understand.

If Oswald had gone to trial for the murder of J.D. Tippit, common sense matters.

Regarding the evidence that exists and "evidence" that does not exist, juries are required to make reasonable inferences.  A judge will advise a jury about what is and what is not reasonable. Common sense must prevail in respect to the evidence (which is overwhelming in the case of Tippit).

The US Law Dictionary defines 'common sense' as:

'Sound practical judgment; that degree of intelligence and reason, as exercised upon the relations of persons and things and the ordinary affairs of life, which is possessed by the generality of mankind, and which would suffice to direct the conduct and actions of the individual in a manner to agree with the behavior of ordinary persons.'

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #858 on: February 09, 2019, 11:03:55 PM »

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #859 on: February 10, 2019, 09:39:21 AM »
Anybody who thinks he can predict how a jury would rule doesn't know the first thing about how a jury trial really works.

Making a claim about there being "overwhelming evidence" is equally stupid as the jury simply might not see it that way. Prosecutors going into court thinking they have an airtight case frequently get destroyed by an able defense lawyer sowing sufficient seeds of doubts in the minds of the jury.

The entire argument that Oswald would have been convicted at trial (and he may well have been) is a pathetic one as there never was or will be a trial making the entire argument nothing more than an unprovable selfserving opinion, no matter what any dictionary says about "common sense".

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #860 on: February 10, 2019, 08:08:17 PM »
Anybody who thinks he can predict how a jury would rule doesn't know the first thing about how a jury trial really works.

Making a claim about there being "overwhelming evidence" is equally stupid as the jury simply might not see it that way. Prosecutors going into court thinking they have an airtight case frequently get destroyed by an able defense lawyer sowing sufficient seeds of doubts in the minds of the jury.

The entire argument that Oswald would have been convicted at trial (and he may well have been) is a pathetic one as there never was or will be a trial making the entire argument nothing more than an unprovable selfserving opinion, no matter what any dictionary says about "common sense".

'sowing seeds of doubt'
>>> also known as gaslighting... which is lifeblood to sociopaths hereabouts... you know, the defense lawyer-wannabe types

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #861 on: February 10, 2019, 08:56:53 PM »
'sowing seeds of doubt'
>>> also known as gaslighting... which is lifeblood to sociopaths hereabouts... you know, the defense lawyer-wannabe types
As usual...Chappo misses the mark... Failing consistently to contribute anything of value to this forum.
Definition in the Urban Dictionary describes gaslighting this way:
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'A form of intimidation or psychological abuse, sometimes called Ambient Abuse where false information is presented to the victim, making them doubt their memory, perception and quite often, their sanity.
It does not mean or illustrate a suggestion of reasonable doubt.
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« Reply #862 on: February 10, 2019, 09:36:30 PM »
As usual...Chappo misses the mark... Failing consistently to contribute anything of value to this forum.
Definition in the Urban Dictionary describes gaslighting this way: It does not mean or illustrate a suggestion of reasonable doubt.
Have a nice day

Freefall again misses my point, which is a broader one addressing the common gaslighter MO practiced by virtually every CTer

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« Reply #863 on: February 10, 2019, 10:30:57 PM »
Freefall again misses my point
Why is Chappy like a basketball? There is no point.