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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #840 on: February 02, 2019, 12:20:50 AM »
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McDonald said he handed the pistol to Carroll.

These guys couldn't keep their stories straight.





How do you conclude that they couldn't keep their stories straight. McDonald saw that it was Carroll who took the revolver from has hand. Carroll wasn't sure whose hand it was who he took the revolver from. There's no conflict between those two statements.

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #841 on: February 02, 2019, 12:22:03 AM »
He may well have done, although I doubt it, but Brown's OP contains only part of the whole story and can not be relied upon.

For instance, Helen Markham testified she left home at "a little after 1". She had only one block to walk, yet according to the official story Tippit was shot at around 1.14 pm. That means that, for the official story to be true, Markham would have taken some 10 minutes to walk one block. Anything less than that would have placed her well beyond 10th/Patton prior to the shooting. Obviously, if the shooting happened earlier, it's just about impossible for Oswald to have been there on time to do the deed.

William Scoggins's testimony reveals that his timing was off and that he got to 10th/Patton earlier than the official story claims. Also, Scoggins, who is supposed to have identified Oswald at the DPD line up failed to identify Oswald as Tippit's killer to the FBI from a photo shown to him the very next day.

Domingo Benavides, who was closer to the actual shooting than anybody else, refused to participate in a line up because he felt he could not positively identify the killer, yet others, like the Davis sisters, who were indoors somehow can identify the man? Really?

There are so many things Brown doesn't tell you, that his entire OP is just a one sided dishonest presentation of what he wants to be the truth rather than the truth itself.


Domingo Benavides, who was closer to the actual shooting than anybody else, refused to participate in a line up because he felt he could not positively identify the killer,

Do you remember Helen Markham....She didn't want to go to view a line up...Did she have a choice?   Benavides was closer to the killer by a half block than Markham and he looked the killer right in the eye... But the cops would have us believe that Benavides  REFUSED because he felt he couldn't POSITIVELY identify the killer.

Question:.... Isn't that the reason for a police line up??....   To determine if a witness can or cannot identify the suspect in a line up?

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #842 on: February 02, 2019, 05:06:20 AM »
How do you conclude that they couldn't keep their stories straight. McDonald saw that it was Carroll who took the revolver from has hand. Carroll wasn't sure whose hand it was who he took the revolver from. There's no conflict between those two statements.
For one thing..the story stinks. Cops don't approach a suspected cop killer guns in hand and then pick a fight with him after the suspect pulls a pistol. Something fishy was going on or else the cops would have gunned down a supposed killer in an instant.

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #843 on: February 02, 2019, 06:16:24 AM »
For one thing..the story stinks. Cops don't approach a suspected cop killer guns in hand and then pick a fight with him after the suspect pulls a pistol. Something fishy was going on or else the cops would have gunned down a supposed killer in an instant.

The fun was well underway before 'Thing' from the Addams family pointed the pistol at Carroll
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #844 on: February 02, 2019, 04:32:10 PM »
For one thing..the story stinks. Cops don't approach a suspected cop killer guns in hand and then pick a fight with him after the suspect pulls a pistol. Something fishy was going on or else the cops would have gunned down a supposed killer in an instant.

Excellent point, Jerry!....

And I'd hasten to add that this suspect that Mc Donald was approaching in the theater was suspected of gunning down a police officer without hesitation.   If the smell of rotten fish hadn't been so strong Mc Donald wouldn't have made physical contact with the suspect.... He would have pointed his cocked revolver directly at the suspects face and ordered him to get down on the floor and crawl over to the aisle.....

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Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #845 on: February 02, 2019, 06:54:40 PM »
For one thing..the story stinks. Cops don't approach a suspected cop killer guns in hand and then pick a fight with him after the suspect pulls a pistol. Something fishy was going on or else the cops would have gunned down a supposed killer in an instant.

Hoover's instructions to the DPD was NOT to kill Oswald until they could get some sort of fake confession out of him. Also, the DPD was so dirty they needed a 3rd party to whack Oswald so they could claim total ineptitude as their defense for some much needed plausible deniability.

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« Reply #846 on: February 02, 2019, 07:12:38 PM »
Hoover's instructions to the DPD was NOT to kill Oswald until they could get some sort of fake confession out of him. Also, the DPD was so dirty they needed a 3rd party to whack Oswald so they could claim total ineptitude as their defense for some much needed plausible deniability.

Entirely plausible....  Here's the difference between the DPD and the Mafia ..... 0

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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #847 on: February 02, 2019, 08:32:50 PM »
Not only that, but they even had several days before Curry asked them to all write reports to compare stories and put together a blue code version of what went down in the theater.

Do you believe Lee Oswald killed J.D. Tippit?