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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1560 on: October 23, 2019, 01:12:38 AM »
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Who ever said 1:06 or 1:15 for that matter?

The combined timelines of Markham, Bowley, Davenport and the Methodist hospital make it obvious that Tippit was in fact killed prior to 1:10.

A voice activated recording system, clocks in the dispatcher room not running synchronized and the Communications Supervisor of the Dallas Police Department saying that times mentioned on the recordings/transcripts can under no circumstance be put any stock on explains the gap nicely.

He explained what he meant and you choose to ignore him. The voice time stamps are not just some arbitrary numbers pulled out of thin air that have no meaning. They are within the tolerances that he explained. Ignore these facts if you wish...

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Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #1561 on: October 23, 2019, 01:18:19 AM »
He explained what he meant and you choose to ignore him. The voice time stamps are not just some arbitrary numbers pulled out of thin air that have no meaning. They are within the tolerances that he explained. Ignore these facts if you wish...

No, I didn't ignore him. His conclusion was clear and you just don't like it.

His entire point was that the voice time stamps could not be relied on. And even less so as they were recorded on a voice activated device. That's the simple fact of it.

So, under no circumstance could you put any stock in the real world time references by the belt because there were no time references on the belt; they were only spoken times, and those spoken times had no faithful validity... - James C. Bowles, Communications Supervisor of the Dallas Police Department.

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« Reply #1562 on: October 23, 2019, 01:19:31 AM »
So, now that you have been shown to be wrong, you attack the messenger?

Bowles did in fact give an explanation and ended it with a definitive conclusion that; "under no circumstance could you put any stock in the real world time references"

But prior to that, I have posted the same information that you did and high-lighted the relevant quote in previous posts. You were that one "paraphrasing" to spin the argument, not me. It's pathetic.

Here are his words in his complete sentence:

“So, under no circumstance could you put any stock in the real world time or any continuity on time references by the belt because there were no time references on the belt; they were only spoken times, and those spoken times had no faithful validity.”

You take a partial sentence and on top of that you omit some of the words that belong in the partial sentence. You are the one who is pathetic!

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« Reply #1563 on: October 23, 2019, 01:28:02 AM »
Here are his words in his complete sentence:

“So, under no circumstance could you put any stock in the real world time or any continuity on time references by the belt because there were no time references on the belt; they were only spoken times, and those spoken times had no faithful validity.”

You take a partial sentence and on top of that you omit some of the words that belong in the partial sentence. You are the one who is pathetic!

I did not take a partial sentence at all, at least not purposely. But it seems indeed that some words that were in the original sentence were somehow lost in my later quote. It was unintentional and I can't really explain how that happened. Not that it matters much, but I have now rectified the problem and included the missing words.


So, under no circumstance could you put any stock in the real world time references by the belt or any continuity on time references because there were no time references on the belt; they were only spoken times, and those spoken times had no faithful validity... - James C. Bowles, Communications Supervisor of the Dallas Police Department.


The fact remains that Bowles clearly states that the recordings/transcripts can not be relied on to provide accurate times.
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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1564 on: October 23, 2019, 01:33:31 AM »
The suggestion that Day, Drain, and Latona all lied about something that served no purpose whatsoever--- is definitely preposterous.

Oh really.... So you know what they all were thinking, and know there motive for lying?....  Do you think they were all saints and would never lie.

How about if they thought nuclear war might hang in the balance.....

Nuclear war hung in the balance on what date a card with a print on it arrived at the FBI?

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« Reply #1565 on: October 23, 2019, 01:35:07 AM »
Between Marsalis and Beckley.

I'm not following you.  How would the dispatcher know that Tippit was between Marsalis and Beckley?

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« Reply #1566 on: October 23, 2019, 01:37:42 AM »

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« Reply #1567 on: October 23, 2019, 01:38:48 AM »
Murray received the telephoned alerts immediately prior to Bowley using the radio.  The Bowley call starts at 1:17.  Delvis Taylor's job was answering phones and scribbling down notes about disturbances.  Taylor did this for the disturbance in the 400 block of E. Tenth, and dropped it on a conveyor belt that led into the radio room. The entire process would take no more than one minute.

Cite.