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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1140 on: April 21, 2019, 10:12:08 AM »
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Zeon, let's be serious if you saw a man that was cut up, bruised, protesting his innocence would that be enough of a reason for you to say that Oswald was the man, I'm guessing/hoping that you wouldn't and I reckon that none of your friends or relatives would knowingly send an innocent man to his death.
So why do you believe that these civilians on Tenth and Patton were any different?

JohnM

Your faith in human kind is admirable, but misplaced. Under pressure to "do the right thing" people often do things they would not have done under normal circumstances.


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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1141 on: April 21, 2019, 01:00:15 PM »
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You lot have a tendency to shave/add to time, height and weight estimates.

Dirty Little Harvey didn't have to run according to precise testing. Could have made it in 11 (+-) minutes by walking briskly according to the vid I just posted here. Just in time to bump into his destiny.

And could have been faster than that if he had had his hands out of his pockets, IMO. I walk all the time and having your hands swinging freely helps create & keep an easy momentum and encourages longer strides as well.

And by the way, I've personally found that trotting is the easiest way to maintain a speed somewhat faster than brisk walking. Oswald was seen as 'trotting' away from the scene by Markham, which suggests he might have trotted along at times while on his walking/trotting/jogging/running tour around the 'hood.

Bottom line Oswald was positively ID'd on scene.

You don't have to shave or add to time to understand that even the best ODIA time schedule is highly improbable and a near impossibility.


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« Reply #1141 on: April 21, 2019, 01:00:15 PM »

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1142 on: April 21, 2019, 05:22:03 PM »
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An unfair and biased line-up is a one guy line-up with the guy holding the rifle with a sign around his neck that says "I did it"!

This wasn?t that far removed from that.

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Unfortunately for the CT's, as we know the Dallas lineups was anything but

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1143 on: April 21, 2019, 05:24:17 PM »
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So why do you believe that these civilians on Tenth and Patton were any different?

Because they were manipulated to do so, and they trusted authority.

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« Reply #1144 on: April 21, 2019, 05:53:14 PM »
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Because they were manipulated to do so, and they trusted authority.

they were manipulated to do so, and they trusted authority.

That's a nice summation ..... And right on the bulls eye.

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1145 on: April 22, 2019, 05:37:17 AM »
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Zeon, let's be serious if you saw a man that was cut up, bruised, protesting his innocence would that be enough of a reason for you to say that Oswald was the man, I'm guessing/hoping that you wouldn't and I reckon that none of your friends or relatives would knowingly send an innocent man to his death.
So why do you believe that these civilians on Tenth and Patton were any different?

JohnM

That's right, John.

The witnesses attending the lineups were NOT asked which man of the four most resembled the man they saw at the scene.  No.

The witnesses were asked if the man they saw at the scene was any of the four men placed before them.


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« Reply #1145 on: April 22, 2019, 05:37:17 AM »

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1146 on: April 22, 2019, 07:12:10 AM »
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You don't have to shave or add to time to understand that even the best ODIA time schedule is highly improbable and a near impossibility.

1:04 +11 (walking; faster trotting or jogging) = 1:15pm
Solved: The distance can be covered in time to fit the WC narrative.

Regarding time estimates by witnesses, they are just that: Estimates.
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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1147 on: April 22, 2019, 07:20:53 AM »
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Because they were manipulated to do so, and they trusted authority.

... because you said so.
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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1148 on: April 22, 2019, 08:12:36 AM »
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Not only doesn't the video answer the simple question ....It's nothing but BS.....   

It is a FACT that Mrs Roberts said that she saw "Mr Lee" ( Lee Oswald) standing at the bus stop in front of the rooming house at 1026 no Beckley at 1:04 pm

And it is a fact that Mrs Markham said in a sworn affidavit the Officer Tippit was shot at 1:06 pm....   Mrs Marham said the a few minutes prior to the shooting she watched Tippit cruise slowly along behind a young man who was walking east on 10th street and the Tippit called the man over to his cruiser and Tippit and the young man talked like friends through the wing window on Tippit's cruiser and then Tippit got out of the car and was shot by the young man.    That shooting happened at 1:06.....and Tippit was following the man prior to 1:06.....  So the man could NOT have been Lee Oswald, who was standing at the bus stop at 1026 North Beckley which was a mile away , at the time Tippit was talking to the man through the window of his cruiser.....

So Markham is a dingbat/oddball/whatever according to you lot, yet has perfect memory when it comes to remembering precise times.

As for Earlene, show us where she said anything about Oswald standing at the bus stop at 1:04. Or even committed to a 4 minute timeframe for Oswald putting on a jacket. She said no more than 3-4 minutes which just as well could have been 2 minutes.

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Re: Lee Oswald The Cop Killer
« Reply #1149 on: April 22, 2019, 12:45:08 PM »
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1:04 +11 (walking; faster trotting or jogging) = 1:15pm
Solved: The distance can be covered in time to fit the WC narrative.

Regarding time estimates by witnesses, they are just that: Estimates.


And so you create your own reality! The WC narrative is also an estimate.

Markham left home just after one and a one block walk got her to 10th/Patton at around 1.06. By 1.15 she would have been at the bus stop on Jefferson.

Bowley looked at his watch when he arrived at the scene and saw it was 1.10.

The ambulance with Tippit in it arrived at the hospital at 1.15.


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