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Online Steve Howsley

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Re: Bullet hole in windshield on JFK's Limo
« Reply #64 on: August 27, 2018, 02:34:41 AM »
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How does someone gain access to the National Archives to examine the windshield?
When was it last examined? I think examination of the windshield would clear up a lot of the discussion. There is testimony that there was an actual hole, and that the shattered glass was on the inside, suggesting a bullet from the outside, indicating a shooter from the front...

7Why would yo want to examine it? If it is as described wouldn't you then claim it's not the original? That's how it works isn't it?

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Re: Bullet hole in windshield on JFK's Limo
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Offline Jake Maxwell

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Re: Bullet hole in windshield on JFK's Limo
« Reply #65 on: August 27, 2018, 03:24:16 AM »
7Why would yo want to examine it? If it is as described wouldn't you then claim it's not the original? That's how it works isn't it?
I think you've got the wrong fellow here...
Investigators want to examine the evidence to see if it matches with testimony given...

Online Mitch Todd

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Re: Bullet hole in windshield on JFK's Limo
« Reply #66 on: August 27, 2018, 04:05:36 AM »
       I thought the Altgens photo of the JFK Limo approaching the Triple Underpass displayed damage to the windshield being present at that time?

Some people claim that, but if you look closely at a good copy of the photo, the "spiral nebula" Fetzer, et al, presume to be a hole stops abruptly at the edge of the rear-view mirror. That is, the mirror is between the "nebula" and the camera, and must therefore be ahead of it. That couldn't be true if the "nebula" was on or in the windshield.
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Bullet hole in windshield on JFK's Limo
« Reply #67 on: August 27, 2018, 04:28:50 AM »
How does someone gain access to the National Archives to examine the windshield?
When was it last examined? I think examination of the windshield would clear up a lot of the discussion. There is testimony that there was an actual hole, and that the shattered glass was on the inside, suggesting a bullet from the outside, indicating a shooter from the front...


Last time I looked, one has to get permission from the Kennedy family representative
School groups get in, maybe tour groups as well.

Meanwhile:

NARA FAQ
https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/faqs

JFK Limo Windshield removal
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/305143
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Re: Bullet hole in windshield on JFK's Limo
« Reply #68 on: August 27, 2018, 04:46:40 AM »
7Why would yo want to examine it? If it is as described wouldn't you then claim it's not the original? That's how it works isn't it?

Somone claimed there was a hole clean through the windshield, the diameter of a pencil.
Naturally some folks want to see for themselves. I don't know if that claim was ever debunked or not.

Here's some NARA photos of the windshield
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/305143
« Last Edit: August 27, 2018, 04:51:13 AM by Bill Chapman »

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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Bullet hole in windshield on JFK's Limo
« Reply #69 on: August 27, 2018, 04:56:51 AM »
Some people claim that, but if you look closely at a good copy of the photo, the "spiral nebula" Fetzer, et al, presume to be a hole stops abruptly at the edge of the rear-view mirror. That is, the mirror is between the "nebula" and the camera, and must therefore be ahead of it. That couldn't be true if the "nebula" was on or in the windshield.

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Altgens 6. Here is a random image I found which points out some lens flare and highlights their "spiral nebula".



In the following gif we see Altgens 7 on a 22nd Nov newspaper and when compared to the official photo which was taken a few hour after midnight, we see crack in the same position and the start of the same radiating cracks which line up.



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Re: Bullet hole in windshield on JFK's Limo
« Reply #70 on: August 27, 2018, 05:16:36 AM »
This testimony... along with the "hurry it up" replace and repair of Kennedy's limo... which in any other investigation would be considered tampering of evidence... seems to confirm a conspiracy from among the highest officials of government...

Maybe think things through before finding sinister motive behind every blade of grass. The limo needed immediate upgrading for the protection of the president. Note below that both the FBI & SS took photos and searched for evidence before the limo was throughly cleaned.

SS-100-X
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS-100-X

EXCERPT

Later that afternoon at 3.30 pm CST the limousine was taken to Love Field and boarded on a C-130 and flown to Andrews Air Force Base, Washington DC, landing at 8 pm EST. After arrival at Andrews AFB, the limo was delivered to the White House garage. The Secret Service and later the FBI took photos of the limo's interior and searched it for evidence before it was thoroughly cleaned and valeted.

Post-assassination

In late December 1963, the car was sent back to Hess & Eisenhardt to be modified further, and was rebuilt from the ground up. For protection, the Lincoln received titanium armor plating, bullet-resistant glass and a bulletproof permanent roof. Solid aluminium rims were also fitted inside the tires to make them flat-proof. It remained in service for an additional eight years, logging 50,000 miles on the ground and over one million miles being flown to and from its destinations. The vehicle was equipped with Presidential lap robes and mouton carpeting and a complete communications system including radio patch to the White House. It was replaced in 1967 and remained in service doing less important duties until 1978, when it was retired to the Henry Ford Museum.
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Re: Bullet hole in windshield on JFK's Limo
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Offline Jake Maxwell

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Re: Bullet hole in windshield on JFK's Limo
« Reply #71 on: August 27, 2018, 05:21:41 AM »
Somone claimed there was a hole clean through the windshield, the diameter of a pencil.
Naturally some folks want to see for themselves. I don't know if that claim was ever debunked or not.

Here's some NARA photos of the windshield
https://catalog.archives.gov/id/305143
Yes... I would want to know if that claim can be debunked... close examination would settle the issue...
« Last Edit: August 27, 2018, 02:25:20 PM by Jake Maxwell »