Oswald's lies proves his guilt.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Oswald's lies proves his guilt.
« Reply #189 on: November 04, 2019, 09:11:26 PM »
To be clear...Because someone thinks that Oswald was a patsy- does not mean that they "worship" him or think he was a "hero"....Just to be clear :-\

It bothers me that many young men were naive and could have been used by "men with credentials, and authority " and could have been made a patsy just as Lee Oswald was.    Lee was naive and egotistical....  He thought that he was working for US government agents.....  Little did he suspect that those agents viewed JFK as a threat to their ideas of what the US should be....  ( Which is the motive that 98% of assassins use to kill the leader )     

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Oswald's lies proves his guilt.
« Reply #190 on: November 04, 2019, 10:26:45 PM »
To be clear...Because someone thinks that Oswald was a patsy- does not mean that they "worship" him or think he was a "hero"....Just to be clear :-\

That’s just Nutter propaganda. They’ll resort to every rhetorical trick in the book to avoid supporting their case with actual evidence.

Online John Mytton

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Re: Oswald's lies proves his guilt.
« Reply #191 on: November 05, 2019, 07:37:28 AM »
8 months later. That figures prominently on the lame LN excuses list.

Kleins initiated the rifle order 13 months before they received delivery and then 9 months before delivery Kleins changed the order to a different rifle.



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Unfortunately you can’t demonstrate who, if anybody, ordered it or that it was mailed at all.

So they setup Oswald with evidence that can't be linked to Oswald? What a brilliant plan!

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Oswald's lies proves his guilt.
« Reply #192 on: November 05, 2019, 03:46:23 PM »
Kleins initiated the rifle order 13 months before they received delivery and then 9 months before delivery Kleins changed the order to a different rifle.



So they setup Oswald with evidence that can't be linked to Oswald? What a brilliant plan!

JohnM

Kleins initiated the rifle order 13 months before they received delivery and then 9 months before delivery Kleins changed the order to a different rifle.


Again, how do you know when Klein's took delivery of those rifles?
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Oswald's lies proves his guilt.
« Reply #193 on: November 05, 2019, 11:29:52 PM »
Kleins initiated the rifle order 13 months before they received delivery and then 9 months before delivery Kleins changed the order to a different rifle.

How does this show that Klein's "took delivery" of a June 1962 order in February 1963?

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So they setup Oswald with evidence that can't be linked to Oswald? What a brilliant plan!

Who's "they"?

So you're agreeing then that the evidence can't be linked to Oswald?   Thumb1:

Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Oswald's lies proves his guilt.
« Reply #194 on: November 06, 2019, 07:14:12 PM »
EXACTLY! if it is so blatantly obvious to all these Oswald worshippers that the Dallas police and FBI lied about everything Oswald (allegedly) said, why would they state that Oswald refused to admit he owned the rifle? Why inform the public that Oswald said the backyard photos were fake? Why report that Oswald denied putting the long brown paper package in the back of Frazier's car? Or that he didn't shoot the President or Tippit?
If it was such a stitch up and they all cohered to lie about everything in order to frame him, why not just say that he admitted to all these things or at least that he refused to comment. With no recordings they could have claimed anything so why "make up" or lie about stuff that casts doubts or could avert liability from him?

I know this point has been made by several other people on this forum but so far I have yet to see anyone come up with a suitable reply

Oswald may have done all his own sheep-dipping and ordered the rifle, posed for the backyard photos holding both murder weapons and commie lit (cough, cough), smuggled the rifle into the TSBD, set up the sniper's nest and even taken some shots at the POTUS and even shot Tippit to death. But he was not a lone nut assassin who just happened to get a job right next to the motorcade route. He was a patsy. Once you acknowledge that as fact, all Oswald's actions fit like a glove and all your questions get answered without being twisted like a pretzel into the LN narrative.

LNers just can't get past Oswald being a patsy. They are actually conspiracy deniers who have been inadvertent shills for the conspirators. Their ghosts thank you LNers for your patronage. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! BEST COUP EVER!

Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Oswald's lies proves his guilt.
« Reply #195 on: November 06, 2019, 07:46:43 PM »
Oswald may have done all his own sheep-dipping and ordered the rifle, posed for the backyard photos holding both murder weapons and commie lit (cough, cough), smuggled the rifle into the TSBD, set up the sniper's nest and even taken some shots at the POTUS and even shot Tippit to death. But he was not a lone nut assassin who just happened to get a job right next to the motorcade route. He was a patsy. Once you acknowledge that as fact, all Oswald's actions fit like a glove and all your questions get answered without being twisted like a pretzel into the LN narrative.

LNers just can't get past Oswald being a patsy. They are actually conspiracy deniers who have been inadvertent shills for the conspirators. Their ghosts thank you LNers for your patronage. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! BEST COUP EVER!
This is almost exactly how Trump supporters think. To wit, he's a patsy, he was set up by the deep state.

All of those things he did - trying to obstruct the Muller investigation, pressuring foreign governments to investigate his political opponents - are ignored because "they" and "them" set him up. His supporters want to look at everyone else but not at what he did. It's remarkable how similar the thinking is.

Oswald never had a house, never had a car, never had a phone, never had a decent job. He had to travel using buses. He spent long stretches living on unemployment checks. He and his wife had to live apart because of his poverty. He had nothing almost nothing. What little he did have - about $185 in cash - he largely ($170 of it) left his wife on the morning of the assassination. Most people would consider that act a clue.

But no, actually he was a sheep-dipped CIA agent sent into the Soviet Union. Then brought back to spy on pro-Castro groups. In the middle of the Cold War the CIA relied on this pathetic nobody. Who worked for free.

It's absurd. It's worse than absurd: it's simply not true.
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