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Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: A Better Sequence (TM DVP)
« Reply #390 on: November 21, 2019, 03:30:07 AM »
No, he goes "outside to watch P. parade". Not difficult!  Thumb1:

But what has this got to do with what Mr Rowland saw?

If you would admit that Prayerblob just might be Sarah Stanton, and thus is not in the way of the front door, where she would have been if she was with Pauline Sanders initially, THEN it might be a little bit easier to have Oswald slip out behind people and be just BEHIND BW Frazier, rather than in front of him, which might fit your partial face seen in Altgens photo 6.

But if you keep insisting that Oswald must be just behind Lovelady and just in front of BW Frazier, there is NO way I could ever go with that given the probability of Oswald being seen moving INSERTING himself between people as opposed to simply BEHIND ALL of them, just peeking.

See, if Oswalds position is just to right of Prayerblob, and also behind but just to the left of BW Frazier, then it might explain a little better the idea of a black swath that did NOT blacken out Prayer blob and only slight portion of Billy Lovelady
 
And then the 2 head phenom, can be dismissed as motion blur for a fraction of a second, and that would explain no blackened out portion of that 2nd head since the conspirators probably looked at it and saw it was NOT INDENTIFIABLE as Oswald anyway. The main thing was to get rid of A BODY which would be there just to the right of Prayerblob, and just to the left of and maybe close too, but just slightly behind BWF and Bill Shelly.

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Re: A Better Sequence (TM DVP)
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Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: A Better Sequence (TM DVP)
« Reply #391 on: November 21, 2019, 03:50:54 AM »
Essentially Rowland's contribution is consistent with the sequence that the assembled evidence clearly shows. Williams departed the 6th floor after the arrival of Jarman and Norman on the 5th. They departed the intersection of Elm and Houston about 12.22pm.

To date, no serious challenge to that sequence as far as I can tell. We are simply debating where Williams was located. Williams was repeated obfuscatory as evidenced by his previous numerous statements prior to his WC testimony. This also cannot be seriously challenged. One might theorise why he felt the need to lie given the gravity of the situation he found himself in. One might also ask why Jarman and Norman felt the need to repeatedly claim he took the elevator up with them until 4 months after the event.

You agree with my basic timeline for Norman and Jarman that its probably not earlier than 12:23 that they got on the West elevator, and it might even be as late as 12:24

In which case, there is no time really for a shooter even hiding on somewhere near the 6th floor, like the 7th floor staircase, and be able to get to the SE window in time to place that box on the window ledge by 12:25

Norman and Jarman are exiting the West elevator on 5th floor at about 12:24:30 and have to cross about 100 ft to get to the southside wall , so really, BR Williams would have to have not been exiting his East elevator taken down from 6th floor until about 12:24:50

Which means he did not get ON the East elevator on 6th floor until about approx. 12:24:45 since its only about maybe 5-7 sec ride from 6th to 5th.

Therefore, its highly improbable for the hiding shooter on 7th floor staircase to traverse 200 ft then move 2 boxes up against the wall, and then lift one box to the window ledge and then duck out of sight in only 15 seconds after BR Williams gets on the East elevator.

And this all before getting into how Jack Dougherty misses all this activity and vice versa not himself being seen either. Its like Jack was snoozing the whole time up on the 7th floor in the little office area an the shots woke him up  :)

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Re: A Better Sequence (TM DVP)
« Reply #392 on: November 21, 2019, 04:03:36 AM »
Why would Oswald care if the 2nd floor lunchroom was vacated?

Billy Lovelady stated that Oswald would sometimes go up to eat lunch in the 2nd floor lunchroom by himself.

The 2nd floor lunchroom was for the 2nd floor office personnel and was NOT supposed to be used by the general labors which their room was the Domino room with exception for getting a soda.

Same protocol for the 2nd floor office, the general laborers were not supposed to go into the 2nd floor office if not directly sent there by Mr Truly. This also according to Billy Lovelady.

So The Mrs Reid seeing Oswald enter from the rear door of 2nd floor office SIMULTANEOSLY as Mrs Reid herself opens the front door, is an inaccurate(imo) story by Mrs Reid, since Oswald knows she is a supervisor and thus why would Oswald continue into the room, seeing Mrs Reid at the other end entering?
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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: A Better Sequence (TM DVP)
« Reply #393 on: November 21, 2019, 03:37:09 PM »
Billy Lovelady stated that Oswald would sometimes go up to eat lunch in the 2nd floor lunchroom by himself.

The 2nd floor lunchroom was for the 2nd floor office personnel and was NOT supposed to be used by the general labors which their room was the Domino room with exception for getting a soda.

Same protocol for the 2nd floor office, the general laborers were not supposed to go into the 2nd floor office if not directly sent there by Mr Truly. This also according to Billy Lovelady.

Thanks.  Can you cite where Lovelady said these things?

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Re: A Better Sequence (TM DVP)
« Reply #393 on: November 21, 2019, 03:37:09 PM »

 

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