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Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Three Tests Proved Oswald's Innocence
« Reply #40 on: May 06, 2018, 06:44:06 PM »
As we know Roger Craig was ostracized by the police dept. and was kept from getting jobs and it was said that he took his own life , all because he stuck to his story that there was a 7.65 Mauser found and not a 6.5 Mannlicher Carcano .

Anybody with at least one good eye can see for themselves that the rifle that was found by deputy Boone where it had been CAREFULLY HIDDEN was in fact a Mannlicher Carcano.   There are dozens of photos that prove the rifle was a model 91/38 Mannlicher Caqrcano 

Unfortunately Roger Craig had a mental problem....   He could never admit that he was wrong....  So rather than admit he was in error he would embellish his stance in an effort to make his tale more convincing.

It is a fact that Roger Craig was never close enough to the carcano on the sixth floor to allow him to see "stamped right there on the barrel was 7.65 mauser"...   That's simply a damned lie.

Then where did the witnesses get the "7.65" part if they didn't read it off the rifle? Who would have known that a Mauser was 7.65mm caliber? You sound like a LNer who claims Roger Craig's mental problems caused him to pull 7.65 out of his keister. Why is that more likely than the DPD screwing up and finding the Mauser by accident? Because if any shots came from the TSBD it would have come from a rifle that was sighted in, unlike the MC, which wasn't even shot.

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Online Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #41 on: May 06, 2018, 11:32:31 PM »
Then where did the witnesses get the "7.65" part if they didn't read it off the rifle? Who would have known that a Mauser was 7.65mm caliber? You sound like a LNer who claims Roger Craig's mental problems caused him to pull 7.65 out of his keister. Why is that more likely than the DPD screwing up and finding the Mauser by accident? Because if any shots came from the TSBD it would have come from a rifle that was sighted in, unlike the MC, which wasn't even shot.

The Argentine Mauser was designed to fire the 7.65 cartridge ......Thus the Argentine mauser is commonly referred to as a 7.65 mauser....  The Argentine mauser and the model 91/38 mannlicher carcano look similar.

Seymour weitzman simply made the mistake of misidentifying the carcano as a 7.65 mauser......It's as simply as that.

Weitzman realized that he had made a mistake and admitted it......  Roger Craig couldn't bear the embarrassment of being wrong....so he lied and embellished the tale.....

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Re: Three Tests Proved Oswald's Innocence
« Reply #42 on: May 06, 2018, 11:53:31 PM »
The Argentine Mauser was designed to fire the 7.65 cartridge ......Thus the Argentine mauser is commonly referred to as a 7.65 mauser....  The Argentine mauser and the model 91/38 mannlicher carcano look similar.

Seymour weitzman simply made the mistake of misidentifying the carcano as a 7.65 mauser......It's as simply as that.

Weitzman realized that he had made a mistake and admitted it......  Roger Craig couldn't bear the embarrassment of being wrong....so he lied and embellished the tale.....

 Walt I am open to this question, but it did not seem like you answered this

Then where did the witnesses get the "7.65" part if they didn't read it off the rifle?

 

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Re: Three Tests Proved Oswald's Innocence
« Reply #43 on: May 07, 2018, 12:26:08 AM »
Walt I am open to this question, but it did not seem like you answered this

Then where did the witnesses get the "7.65" part if they didn't read it off the rifle?


The Argentine mauser resembles a model 91/38 carcano... At first glance it's easy to mistake the Argentine mauser ( also known as a 7.65 mauser)...because the carcano and the 7.65 ( Argentine) mauser do look similar.      Just as a deer hunting rifle is often called a "high powered rifle".... the Argentine is often called a 7.65 mauser.....

Nobody read 7.65 stamped on the Carcano....Weitzman simply referred to the rifle that he could only see a mall portion of as a 7.65 mauser ( meaning an Argentine mauser ...same thing just different way to identify the gun) 

Later Weitzman recognized that he was in error and admitted it.....But Roger Craig wouldn't back off....Craig didn't know the 7.65 ( Argentine) mauser from a 03 Springfield ....but he respected Weitzman's first erroneous identification and believed that was what they had found... Craig was wrong....and a pathetic mental case.         
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Re: Three Tests Proved Oswald's Innocence
« Reply #44 on: May 07, 2018, 01:16:14 AM »

Unfortunately Roger Craig had a mental problem....   He could never admit that he was wrong....  So rather than admit he was in error he would embellish his stance in an effort to make his tale more convincing.

Hmn, kinda reminds me of someone else..not sure who. lol


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« Reply #45 on: May 07, 2018, 01:30:05 AM »
Hmn, kinda reminds me of someone else..not sure who. lol

An intelligent and wise man readily admits that he is wrong when in fact he is in error.   Admitting to being being wrong is the mark of a wise man, for no human is ever always right.   

A man who cannot admit an error is a fool.....
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Re: Three Tests Proved Oswald's Innocence
« Reply #46 on: May 07, 2018, 01:24:55 PM »
Walt I am open to this question, but it did not seem like you answered this

Then where did the witnesses get the "7.65" part if they didn't read it off the rifle?

Do you now understand ?

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« Reply #47 on: May 10, 2018, 10:00:11 PM »
Splitting hairs John... and then splitting them again!!!

So what do you think Amos Euins saw... a pipe or a rifle?

So what do you think Bob Jackson saw... a pipe or a rifle?

It's not splitting hairs.  You claimed that "several witnesses saw a man firing a rifle from the TSBD".  That's just flat out false.

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Re: Three Tests Proved Oswald's Innocence
« Reply #48 on: May 10, 2018, 10:04:51 PM »
An intelligent and wise man readily admits that he is wrong when in fact he is in error.   Admitting to being being wrong is the mark of a wise man, for no human is ever always right.   

A man who cannot admit an error is a fool.....

You mean like admitting your error about "red signal rings"?

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Re: Three Tests Proved Oswald's Innocence
« Reply #49 on: May 10, 2018, 10:15:02 PM »
Do you now understand ?

 Walt Yes thank you I assume close comparisons were done on the original police photo of what they called a Mauser and no expert has been able to prove it was such a Mauser?

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