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Offline Mike Orr

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Re: Three Tests Proved Oswald's Innocence
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2018, 03:56:40 AM »
In an April 3 [2000] telephone interview with Regh Templin, an expert in firearms and tool mark analysis at the Wisconsin State Crime Lab for over 17 years, Templin stated that there is not now and never was a test to administer on a firearm to give an approximate time period as to when a firearm has been fired.


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Re: Three Tests Proved Oswald's Innocence
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2018, 03:56:40 AM »


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Re: Three Tests Proved Oswald's Innocence
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2018, 10:06:42 PM »
There isn't evidence showing that CE 139 was fired on November 22, 1963, let alone LHO fired it.
It was just one of my jests. I drew attention to "fried" instead of "fired"... in the original post before a spelling correction. For something to be "fried" it has to be hot.

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Re: Three Tests Proved Oswald's Innocence
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2018, 05:01:40 AM »
Okay...So does it bother you at all that it was never shown that CE 139 was fired on November 22, 1963?

No Rob... it does not bother me (that it was never shown that CE 139 was fired on November 22, 1963).

In 1963 there was no test available to prove that a rifle was fired recently. There is no test available today that can prove a rifle was fired recently.

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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Three Tests Proved Oswald's Innocence
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2018, 05:26:09 AM »
He scrubbed his face without using his hands I guess. 🤣



Huh? Instead of being wrong all your life try thinking as appropriate to the timeline.

1. Oswald shoots Kennedy.
2. Oswald goes to his room and spends between 3 and 4 minutes getting spruced i.e. washing his face and ready to go to the movies. No nitrates at this point in time.
3. Oswald like a crazed maniac shoots and kills Tippit. Nitrates on hands, the DP said the Nitrate deposits were consistent with firing a revolver.



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Re: Three Tests Proved Oswald's Innocence
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2018, 12:47:51 PM »


Huh? Instead of being wrong all your life try thinking as appropriate to the timeline.

1. Oswald shoots Kennedy.
2. Oswald goes to his room and spends between 3 and 4 minutes getting spruced i.e. washing his face and ready to go to the movies. No nitrates at this point in time.
3. Oswald like a crazed maniac shoots and kills Tippit. Nitrates on hands, the DP said the Nitrate deposits were consistent with firing a revolver.



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His room had washing facilities?

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Re: Three Tests Proved Oswald's Innocence
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2018, 11:45:18 PM »


Huh? Instead of being wrong all your life try thinking as appropriate to the timeline.

1. Oswald shoots Kennedy.
2. Oswald goes to his room and spends between 3 and 4 minutes getting spruced i.e. washing his face and ready to go to the movies. No nitrates at this point in time.
3. Oswald like a crazed maniac shoots and kills Tippit. Nitrates on hands, the DP said the Nitrate deposits were consistent with firing a revolver.

Isn't story time fun?

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Re: Three Tests Proved Oswald's Innocence
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2018, 05:23:58 AM »
Oh please Ross. In movies from the 1930s and 1940s the police smell a gun to see if it has recently been fired. Furthermore, the barrel of a gun shows different residue from one that has not been fired for some time.

Oh please Rob: You are referring to a movie script. That's not a scientific test. The Dallas Police found Oswald's Carcano rifle on the 6th floor of the TSBD 45 minutes after the assassination. Would the smell test have been of any use?

The expended cartridge cases found on the 6th floor of the TSBD were matched to Oswald's Carcano rifle to the exclusion of all other weapons. Several witnesses saw a man firing a rifle from the TSBD during the assassination. Do we really need an inconclusive test to support that reality?

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Re: Three Tests Proved Oswald's Innocence
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2018, 04:46:16 PM »
Oh please Rob: You are referring to a movie script. That's not a scientific test. The Dallas Police found Oswald's Carcano rifle on the 6th floor of the TSBD 45 minutes after the assassination. Would the smell test have been of any use?

The expended cartridge cases found on the 6th floor of the TSBD were matched to Oswald's Carcano rifle to the exclusion of all other weapons. Several witnesses saw a man firing a rifle from the TSBD during the assassination. Do we really need an inconclusive test to support that reality?

"The Dallas Police found Oswald's Carcano"

Actually a 7.65 Mauser was found by Sheriff Department Deputy Boone. The crime scene

was turned over to the (DPD) Dallas Police Department almost immediately. The rifle later became Ozzie's

Carcano.







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Re: Three Tests Proved Oswald's Innocence
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2018, 10:12:08 PM »
Oh please Rob: You are referring to a movie script. That's not a scientific test. The Dallas Police found Oswald's Carcano rifle on the 6th floor of the TSBD 45 minutes after the assassination. Would the smell test have been of any use?

Just saying "Oswald's Carcano rifle" over and over again doesn't actually make it true.

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Several witnesses saw a man firing a rifle from the TSBD during the assassination.

Oh really?  Name them.

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Re: Three Tests Proved Oswald's Innocence
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2018, 10:19:41 PM »
"The Dallas Police found Oswald's Carcano"

Actually a 7.65 Mauser was found by Sheriff Department Deputy Boone. The crime scene

was turned over to the (DPD) Dallas Police Department almost immediately. The rifle later became Ozzie's

Carcano.








You are quoting an error caused by Deputy Sheriff Boone's cursory "look" at the rifle before it was examined. Boone later admitted his error: he assumed the rifle was a "Mauser" based on the bolt-action.

Like every other amateur attorney: you have no interest in explaining the whys and wherefores of the Mauser theory. Even the most obvious, rudimentary questions are never asked.

-- Was the German Mauser used to make the assassination shots?

-- Where is the ballistics evidence that links a German Mauser to the assassination shots?

-- Why was  Oswald's Carcano unavailable to make the assassination shots?

-- How did Oswald's Italian Carcano appear very soon after the Boone "find" for Captain Fritz and Lieutenant Day to examine the rifle?

-- Were Fritz and day part of a conspiracy to murder JFK? Before the fact? After the fact?

Well Mister defense attorney?????



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Re: Three Tests Proved Oswald's Innocence
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2018, 10:19:41 PM »