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Offline Mike Orr

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Three Tests Proved Oswald's Innocence
« on: April 30, 2018, 02:14:40 AM »
    Test 1:  Spectrographic Analysis
                 Oswald's paraffin casts were subjected to two analyses. Spectrographic analysis , the method normally used by the police, showed evidence of barium and antimony on Oswald's hands , but not on his cheek .

    Test 2:   Neutron Activation Analysis on Oswald
                 Spectrographic analysis was considered sufficiently reliable for criminal investigations, but in this case a more incisive test was also used. Neutron activation analysis, which is capable of identifying the presence of substances in quantities much to small to be captured by spectrographic analysis, also showed no incriminating quantities of residues on Oswald's cheek. The result was reported in an internal Warren Commission memo: " At best, the analysis shows that Oswald may have fired a pistol, although this is by no means certain. ... There is no basis for concluding that he also fired a rifle."

    Test 3:   Controlled Neutron Activation Analysis

                  In order to check the validity of the neutron activation analysis of Oswald's paraffin casts, a controlled test was made. Seven marksmen fired a rifle of the same type as that found on the sixth floor. The standard paraffin test was administered, and the paraffin casts were subjected to neutron activation analysis. All seven subjects showed substantial amounts of barium and antimony on their hands and more impotantly , on their cheeks.

The absence of significant quantities of residues on Oswald's cheek meant that he almost certainly had not fired a rifle that day.

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Three Tests Proved Oswald's Innocence
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Re: Three Tests Proved Oswald's Innocence
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2018, 03:01:43 AM »
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    Test 1:  Spectrographic Analysis
                 Oswald's paraffin casts were subjected to two analyses. Spectrographic analysis , the method normally used by the police, showed evidence of barium and antimony on Oswald's hands , but not on his cheek .

    Test 2:   Neutron Activation Analysis on Oswald
                 Spectrographic analysis was considered sufficiently reliable for criminal investigations, but in this case a more incisive test was also used. Neutron activation analysis, which is capable of identifying the presence of substances in quantities much to small to be captured by spectrographic analysis, also showed no incriminating quantities of residues on Oswald's cheek. The result was reported in an internal Warren Commission memo: " At best, the analysis shows that Oswald may have fired a pistol, although this is by no means certain. ... There is no basis for concluding that he also fired a rifle."

    Test 3:   Controlled Neutron Activation Analysis

                  In order to check the validity of the neutron activation analysis of Oswald's paraffin casts, a controlled test was made. Seven marksmen fired a rifle of the same type as that found on the sixth floor. The standard paraffin test was administered, and the paraffin casts were subjected to neutron activation analysis. All seven subjects showed substantial amounts of barium and antimony on their hands and more impotantly , on their cheeks.

The absence of significant quantities of residues on Oswald's cheek meant that he almost certainly had not fired a rifle that day.

In 1963: The Paraffin test was known to be essentially worthless. It was prone to false positives and false negatives. It was used to trick naive suspects into giving a confession.

However, you seem to believe in the effectiveness of the paraffin test. Does that mean that you accept that Lee Harvey Oswald fired "a gun" on Friday 22 November 1963? You know... the Smith & Wesson revolver with which he shot Office JD Tippit. The discarded bullet hulls from the gun being found near the crime scene were matched to the weapon to the exclusion of all others.

If not: How do you think Oswald got "nitrates" on his hands on Friday 22 November 1963?
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The absence of significant quantities of residues on Oswald's cheek meant that he almost certainly had not fired a rifle that day.

The lame LN excuse for this is that he scrubbed his face when he was at the rooming house.

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The lame LN excuse for this is that he scrubbed his face when he was at the rooming house.

 But not his hands apparently

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Re: Three Tests Proved Oswald's Innocence
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2018, 10:25:37 PM »
 Yes

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But not his hands apparently
His (Oswald's) hands got nitrates on them when he used his Smith & Wesson revolver to murder Office JD Tippit.

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His (Oswald's) hands got nitrates on them when he used his Smith & Wesson revolver to murder Office JD Tippit.

 Just barium and antimony which you apparently could get from handling books

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Just barium and antimony which you apparently could get from handling books

As I said: In 1963 paraffin tests were essentially worthless.

Did Lee Harvey Oswald do any work on the morning of Friday 22 November 1963? If he didn't, your theory is worthless.

Incidentally, can you prove the books/barium & antimony assertion?

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As I said: In 1963 paraffin tests were essentially worthless.

Did Lee Harvey Oswald do any work on the morning of Friday 22 November 1963? If he didn't, your theory is worthless.

Incidentally, can you prove the books/barium & antimony assertion?
Nope It looks like the quote came from the idea that they are relatively ubiquitous Can't find anything to establish what a baseline amount would be for the average non shooter 

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Did Lee Harvey Oswald do any work on the morning of Friday 22 November 1963?

Yes.

Mr. BALL - On the 22d of November 1963, did you see him come to work that morning?
Mr. SHELLEY - No, he was at work when I got there already filling orders.

Mr. BELIN. Did you see Lee Harvey Oswald at any time during that day?
Mr. TRULY. I am almost certain that I saw him early that morning as I came in, and spoke to him.
Mr. BELIN. And where was he when you saw him?
Mr. TRULY. I think he was around the front part of the Scott, Foresman bins.
Mr. BELIN. On what floor?
Mr. TRULY. On the first floor.
Mr. BELIN. Was he filling orders?
Mr. TRULY. Apparently; yes, sir. I don't recall too close. But I am almost certain that I talked to him that morning.

Mr. BALL - Did you talk to Oswald that morning?
Mr. JARMAN - I did.
Mr. BALL - When?
Mr. JARMAN - I had him to correct an order. I don't know exactly what time it was.
Mr. BALL - Oh, approximately. Nine, ten?
Mr. JARMAN - It was around, it was between eight and nine, I would say.

Mr. BALL. Did you remember seeing him at any time that morning?
Mr. NORMAN. Yes; around about 10 or 10:15, somewhere in the neighborhood of that.
Mr. BALL. Where did you see him?
Mr. NORMAN. Over in the bins by the windows, I mean looking out, you know, at Elm Street, towards Elm Street.
Mr. BALL. On what floor?
Mr. NORMAN. The first.
Mr. BALL. Looking out on Elm through windows, is that right?
Mr. NORMAN. Yes, sir. I was looking out the window. He happened to come by to fill orders.

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