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Offline Tim Nickerson

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If I understand correctly Hill reported to Westbrook so that would put very few connected players from the DPD at crucial positions in the investigation Namely Westbrook Hill and Croy claims an unknown man handed him the wallet at the scene Similar to Westbrook's claim that he is not sure what officer told him to look for the grey jacket at the gas station These individual ambiguity of these key facts is pretty troubling

Pretty troubling? LOL! Hyperbole much? It's a jacket. Oswald merely wore it. He didn't use it to kill Tippit. The Jacket was readily identifiable and recording every little detail about it and it's handling at the time was not high priority.

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Online Martin Weidmann

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Pretty troubling? LOL! Hyperbole much? It's a jacket. Oswald merely wore it. He didn't use it to kill Tippit. The Jacket was readily identifiable and recording every little detail about it and it's handling at the time was not high priority.

it's handling at the time was not high priority.

Really?

So, your position is that individual officers got to decide which pieces of evidence were "high priority" or not?

Offline Matt Grantham

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Pretty troubling? LOL! Hyperbole much? It's a jacket. Oswald merely wore it. He didn't use it to kill Tippit. The Jacket was readily identifiable and recording every little detail about it and it's handling at the time was not high priority.

 Every little detail? The two most important events are the moments and circumstance in which the jacket and wallet are discover and I dare see they could not be much more ambiguity We are not discussing small details of some sort If we are to accept the notion that officials become disoriented when big events are happening then we certainly make it easier for said officials to lie and conspire
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Offline Tim Nickerson

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it's handling at the time was not high priority.

Really?

So, your position is that individual officers got to decide which pieces of evidence were "high priority" or not?

Yes.

Offline Tim Nickerson

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Every little detail The two most important events are the moments and circumstance in which the jacket and wallet are discover and I dare see they could not be much more ambiguous We are not discussing small details of some sort If we are to accept the notion that officials become disoriented when big events are happening then we certain make it easier for said officials to lie and conspire

They are not ambiguous at all. The jacket was readily identifiable. In fact, the detail that made it readily identifiable was called in to Radio Dispatch very shortly after the jacket was discovered. The officials weren't disoriented. It's just that the jacket itself was not a crime scene. It was a jacket. They had bigger things on their plate. They had a cop killer to apprehend.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Pretty troubling? LOL! Hyperbole much? It's a jacket. Oswald merely wore it. He didn't use it to kill Tippit. The Jacket was readily identifiable and recording every little detail about it and it's handling at the time was not high priority.

There's no evidence that Oswald wore that particular jacket.

Online Martin Weidmann

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it's handling at the time was not high priority.

Really?

So, your position is that individual officers got to decide which pieces of evidence were "high priority" or not?



Yes.


Amazing.

So, how does this work exactly when a piece of evidence not deemed to be high priority suddenly becomes extremely significant? There is no chain of custody, so how do you make that piece of evidence "high priority" again?


They are not ambiguous at all. The jacket was readily identifiable. In fact, the detail that made it readily identifiable was called in to Radio Dispatch very shortly after the jacket was discovered. The officials weren't disoriented. It's just that the jacket itself was not a crime scene. It was a jacket. They had bigger things on their plate. They had a cop killer to apprehend.


Tim, a stapled on dry-cleaning label (which could not be linked to a dry-cleaner anywhere in the greater Dallas and New Orleans area) doesn't make the jacket it is stapled on to "readily identifiable". It just means that label was possibly attached to the white jacket found at the parking.

Offline Matt Grantham

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They are not ambiguous at all. The jacket was readily identifiable. In fact, the detail that made it readily identifiable was called in to Radio Dispatch very shortly after the jacket was discovered. The officials weren't disoriented. It's just that the jacket itself was not a crime scene. It was a jacket. They had bigger things on their plate. They had a cop killer to apprehend.


 Details is in the context of by whom and through what circumstances was the jacket, and wallet found found rather than anything pertaining to the jacket and wallet as distinct items No one suggested they make reports in the middle of this rather that they would not remember the events and make them a priority after catching Oswald is what is being addressed Lets add on the fact that Westbrook was ever able to mention that he is the person who drove Oswald from the TT back to the police station according to the Dallas reporter that was with him
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Offline Brian Walker

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There's no evidence that Oswald wore that particular jacket.


Translation..There is no picture of Oswald wearing the jacket on that day.

Online Walt Cakebread

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Let's not forget the omni present Captain Westbrook, the personnel officer, who happened to be filmed at the Tippit scene looking at a wallet held by a police man and who asked FBI agent Barrett if he had ever heard of Oswald or Hidell.

That same Captain Westbrook then showed up at a parking lot where somebody (he doesn't know who) showed him a jacket under a car. The jacket is described on police radio as being white. He allegedly picks it up and gives it to another officer who he also doesn't know. Then he somehow gets the jacket, which by then amazingly had turned grey, back at the police station (from whom we don't know) where he gives it to the evidence room after first collecting markings from several officers (who were not part of the chain of custody) and forgetting to mark it himself.

That same Captain Westbrook who was too busy moving to the Texas Theater to apparently pay much attention to the jacket, yet who managed to "identify" without any difficulty the jacket in his WC testimony months later...

No, let's not forget Westbrook....

The first one at the very top of my list would be... Gerald Hill.......

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