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Online Jim Brunsman

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Autopsy proves SBT impossible
« on: April 08, 2018, 05:36:22 AM »
Witnesses at the autopsy reported that Humes seemed very frustrated that the back wound did not exit the body and the bullet wasn't to be found. Humes probed this wound and felt the end of it with his finger. All you "Oswald framers" out there need to explain how a bullet that didn't exit the president's body was supposed to hit the governor. Never mind the fact that the throat wound was an entry wound according to all the Parkland witnesses. This should end the debate about the magic bullet because that's only one of MANY reasons it's impossible for anyone to commit this assassination alone.

P.S. This is my first new topic so I hope I haven't repeated what someone else has posted. By way of introduction, I learned of the assassination when Sister Mary Pierre told my first grade class. I now reflect on how deeply affected the nuns were to lose the first Catholic president in such a violent way. I have been interested in the assassination from the start and read everything I could get my hands on. I have met a few people related to the investigation. I met Mark Weiss, the acoustic expert briefly. I spoke to Robert Pierpoint of CBS News. He stuck to the Warren Commission story and was in the press bus at the back of the motorcade so he witnessed little of note. I interviewed Robert Groden in Dealey Plaza but there were too many others there to get into detail. I interviewed David Lifton on the phone in 1986 because I was astounded at "Best Evidence." Since then Doug Horne has corroborated much of Lifton's shocking research.
  I remain frustrated that the media and mainstream educators refuse to do the research that will exonerate Oswald. I think it's ridiculous that the patsy's name is the one associated with this horrific crime. There are some intelligent folks here who totally buy the frame job. For me it's so obvious that there are multiple assassins. It's much the same as how polarized our views are concerning Donald Trump. To me it's painfully obvious he is a repugnant and despicable human being who cares only about himself and a few select Caucasian one percenters. But I know a very few people who stand by the president and can rationalize his infantile behavior. I'm not one of them. So there!

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Offline Tim Nickerson

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« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2018, 05:51:29 AM »
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Witnesses at the autopsy reported that Humes seemed very frustrated that the back wound did not exit the body and the bullet wasn't to be found. Humes probed this wound and felt the end of it with his finger. All you "Oswald framers" out there need to explain how a bullet that didn't exit the president's body was supposed to hit the governor. Never mind the fact that the throat wound was an entry wound according to all the Parkland witnesses. This should end the debate about the magic bullet because that's only one of MANY reasons it's impossible for anyone to commit this assassination alone.

P.S. This is my first new topic so I hope I haven't repeated what someone else has posted. By way of introduction, I learned of the assassination when Sister Mary Pierre told my first grade class. I now reflect on how deeply affected the nuns were to lose the first Catholic president in such a violent way. I have been interested in the assassination from the start and read everything I could get my hands on. I have met a few people related to the investigation. I met Mark Weiss, the acoustic expert briefly. I spoke to Robert Pierpoint of CBS News. He stuck to the Warren Commission story and was in the press bus at the back of the motorcade so he witnessed little of note. I interviewed Robert Groden in Dealey Plaza but there were too many others there to get into detail. I interviewed David Lifton on the phone in 1986 because I was astounded at "Best Evidence." Since then Doug Horne has corroborated much of Lifton's shocking research.
  I remain frustrated that the media and mainstream educators refuse to do the research that will exonerate Oswald. I think it's ridiculous that the patsy's name is the one associated with this horrific crime. There are some intelligent folks here who totally buy the frame job. For me it's so obvious that there are multiple assassins. It's much the same as how polarized our views are concerning Donald Trump. To me it's painfully obvious he is a repugnant and despicable human being who cares only about himself and a few select Caucasian one percenters. But I know a very few people who stand by the president and can rationalize his infantile behavior. I'm not one of them. So there!

Hi Jim,

Welcome to the forum.

We "Oswald framers" don't need to explain how a bullet that didn't exit the president's body was supposed to hit the governor because we are still free to not indulge the fantasies of CTs. The bullet that struck Kennedy at the base of the neck from the rear exited his body. It's in the autopsy report. You should read it.
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« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2018, 03:52:00 PM »
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Witnesses at the autopsy reported that Humes seemed very frustrated that the back wound did not exit the body and the bullet wasn't to be found. Humes probed this wound and felt the end of it with his finger. All you "Oswald framers" out there need to explain how a bullet that didn't exit the president's body was supposed to hit the governor. Never mind the fact that the throat wound was an entry wound according to all the Parkland witnesses. This should end the debate about the magic bullet because that's only one of MANY reasons it's impossible for anyone to commit this assassination alone

And all of Oswald's defenders need to explain how two bullets could be removed from Kennedys throat without leaving any additional wounds.

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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2018, 04:30:19 PM »
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Hi Jim,

Welcome to the forum.

We "Oswald framers" don't need to explain how a bullet that didn't exit the president's body was supposed to hit the governor because we are still free to not indulge the fantasies of CTs. The bullet that struck Kennedy at the base of the neck from the rear exited his body. It's in the autopsy report. You should read it.

How could the autopsy doctors state this with certainty, when they didn't track the wound through the body, Tim?

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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2018, 05:59:32 PM »
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How could the autopsy doctors state this with certainty, when they didn't track the wound through the body, Tim?

Ray,

They had an entrance wound in the posterior at the base of the neck. The X-Rays revealed no bullet inside the body.  After removing the breastplate they found a contusion on the apex of the upper lobe of the right lung. It was obvious to them that the bullet had gone over the top of that lung. They came to realize that the bullet had to have exited from the front of the neck. Humes' phone call to Dr. Perry confirmed it for them.


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Online Ray Mitcham

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Ray,

They had an entrance wound in the posterior at the base of the neck. The X-Rays revealed no bullet inside the body.  After removing the breastplate they found a contusion on the apex of the upper lobe of the right lung. It was obvious to them that the bullet had gone over the top of that lung. They came to realize that the bullet had to have exited from the front of the neck. Humes' phone call to Dr. Perry confirmed it for them.

It was a cock-up of an autopsy. How can an incredible autopsy be considered as any evidence.

So the "bullet hit the top of the right lung" and exited through the throat?  ;D

If that was the case then the bullet would have been travelling in an upward direction.

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It was a cock-up of an autopsy. How can an incredible autopsy be considered as any evidence.

It was an official autopsy. That the findings of it don't match up with your conspiratorial beliefs is your problem, not mine.

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So the "bullet hit the top of the right lung" and exited through the throat?  ;D

If that was the case then the bullet would have been travelling in an upward direction.

The bullet never hit the top of the right lung. It passed over the top of the right lung. It did so in a downward direction.

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It was an official autopsy. That the findings of it don't match up with your conspiratorial beliefs is your problem, not mine.



 Well its been pretty polite up to this point , but I am going to object to this There is the logical fallacy of begging the question, and in my opinion it is particularly prevalent among those who official stories of some sort behind them Apparently this perspective allows them a free pass form this otherwise prohibitive fundament of logic based solely on the conclusion of organization Conclusion's, regardless of who came up with them, are not not allowed to explain debates at premises according to the rules of logic

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 Well its been pretty polite up to this point , but I am going to object to this There is the logical fallacy of begging the question, and in my opinion it is particularly prevalent among those who official stories of some sort behind them Apparently this perspective allows them a free pass form this otherwise prohibitive fundament of logic based solely on the conclusion of organization Conclusion's, regardless of who came up with them, are not not allowed to explain debates at premises according to the rules of logic

Matt, I think that you may be speaking at a level that is above my pay grade because I'm having difficulty understanding what you just said there.

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« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2018, 09:46:53 PM »
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Mr. SPECTER - What specific experience have you had, if any, with respect to gunshot wounds?
Commander HUMES - My type of practice, which fortunately has been in peacetime endeavor to a great extent, has been more extensive in the field of natural disease than violence. However, on several occasions in various places where I have been employed, I have had to deal with violent death, accidents, suicides, and so forth. Also I have had training at the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology, I have completed a course in forensic pathology there as part of my training in the overall field of pathology.


No experience in forensic pathology and you've asked for it.

Mr. SPECTER - Have you had any additional, special training or experience in missile wounds?
Colonel FINCK - For the past 3 years I was Chief of the Wound Ballistics Pathology Branch of the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology and in that capacity I reviewed personally all the cases forwarded to us by the Armed Forces, and some civilian cases from the United States and our forces overseas. The number of these cases amounts to approximately 400 cases. I was called as a consultant in the field of missile wounds for this particular case, and also last year in February 1963, the Surgeon General of the Army sent me to Vietnam for a wound ballistics mission, I had to testify in a murder trial involving a 30/30 rifle in the first week of March this year, and I came back yesterday after one week in Panama where I had to testify. I was sent to Panama by the Secretary of the Army regarding the fatalities of the events of 9-10 in January of 1964.
Mr. SPECTER - Have you been certified by the American Board of Pathology, Doctor Finck?
Colonel FINCK - I was certified in pathology anatomy by the American Board of Pathology in 1956, and by the same American Board of Pathology in the field of forensic pathology in 1961.
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Mr. SPECTER - Did you have occasion to participate in the autopsy of the late President Kennedy?
Colonel FINCK - Yes; I did.
Mr. SPECTER - And are you one of the three coauthors of the autopsy report which has been previously marked and introduced into evidence here?
Colonel FINCK - Yes, I am.

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