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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Another disappearing bullet
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2018, 07:36:29 PM »
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Sounds like the stretcher bullet

"a spent, misshapen, but otherwise intact, bullet"

It should be noted that the bullet that hit Connally is probably still lodged in his thigh bone.  The stretcher bullet is not the "magic bullet".

There were three shots fired by the Carcano rifle in the book depository.  One missed completely and hit the pavement behind the car, possibly due to accidentally hitting a traffic signal first The second shot hit Kennedy and Connally, and the third shot also missed and wedged itself in the car, later found and ended up on the stretcher.

The fatal shot came from a different gun using different ammunition, the lead fragments of which were found in the car.

James, The bullet that struck Connally was never lodged in his thigh bone. The bullet fell out of his thigh onto his stretcher but there was a very tiny fragment of lead left in the flesh of the thigh.

The fatal shot came from the same rifle using the same ammunition.

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Re: Another disappearing bullet
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2018, 07:36:29 PM »


Offline James Dahl

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Re: Another disappearing bullet
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2018, 07:59:22 PM »
James, The bullet that struck Connally was never lodged in his thigh bone. The bullet fell out of his thigh onto his stretcher but there was a very tiny fragment of lead left in the flesh of the thigh.

The fatal shot came from the same rifle using the same ammunition.

A theory was proposed that this is where the bullet came from, but there are no fragments missing from the stretcher bullet, it has compression damage only, no fragmentation.

The bullet fragments from Connally were never recovered or examined, and there is no exit wound on Connally, all of the bullet fragments are still in his body

Not all bullets exit, and the bullet that travelled through Connally's body did enormous amounts of damage but also lost enormous amounts of inertia and came to a rest in his thigh.  This is not theoretical this is what Connally's medical records say, the bullet is still there.
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Re: Another disappearing bullet
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2018, 08:01:37 PM »
The bullet at Parkland came off Connally's stretcher Therefore one would expect it came from Connally

       Whether the Pristine Bullet fell from the stretcher of Connally or JFK is a contested issue.  Specter knew the stretcher issue was critical with regard to the SBT & this is reflected in Specter persistently attempting to twist the WC Testimony of Daryl Tomlinson who witnessed the bullet fall from the stretcher. (1) A Shallow JFK Back Wound, (2) A Pristine Bullet, & (3) Said Pristine Bullet falling from JFK's Stretcher = Total demolition of the SBT & The Lone Gunman Mantra.

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Offline Matt Grantham

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Re: Another disappearing bullet
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2018, 08:20:03 PM »
       Whether the Pristine Bullet fell from the stretcher of Connally or JFK is a contested issue.  Specter knew the stretcher issue was critical with regard to the SBT & this is reflected in Specter persistently attempting to twist the WC Testimony of Daryl Tomlinson who witnessed the bullet fall from the stretcher. (1) A Shallow JFK Back Wound, (2) A Pristine Bullet, & (3) Said Pristine Bullet falling from JFK's Stretcher = Total demolition of the SBT & The Lone Gunman Mantra.

 Personally it seems pretty obvious it could have only come from the wound in JFK's back I was just trying to explain the basic narrative to James Dahl

 OP Wright, who was in charge of security at Parkland,  claims he got the bullet from Tomlinson and is quoted rather strongly that CE 399 is not the bullet they found on Nov22nd 1963

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/05/070517142528.htm
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Offline James Dahl

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Re: Another disappearing bullet
« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2018, 08:26:22 PM »
The whole story is such obvious bullspombleprofglidnoctobuns though.

1: There is no exit wound on Connally, the bullet is still in his body
2: There are bullet fragments all throughout Connally's body, but the stretcher bullet is not fragmented at all, only compression deformed
3: If the bullet that passed through Kennedy is the same one that entered Connally, it cannot be the stretcher bullet, because that bullet is in Connally's thigh

The stretcher bullet cannot be the first shot as that was never found, and chipped the pavement
The stretcher bullet cannot be the second shot as that fragmented and remained in Connally
The stretcher bullet can only be the third shot, but this cannot be the head wound because again, it is not fragmented, only deformed

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Re: Another disappearing bullet
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2018, 08:33:01 PM »
Personally it seems pretty obvious it could have only come from the wound in JFK's back I was just trying to explain the basic narrative to James Dahl

 OP Wright, who in charge of security at Parkland,  claims he got the bullet from Tomlinson is quoted rather strongly that CE 399 is not the bullet they found on Nov22nd 1963

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/05/070517142528.htm

   You are absolutely right. OP Wright categorically rejected that CE399 was the bullet that Tomlinson saw fall from the stretcher.

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Re: Another disappearing bullet
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2018, 08:36:25 PM »
Hmm actually what if CE399 is the pavement bullet?  Recovered and placed on the stretcher later?

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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Another disappearing bullet
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2018, 08:43:32 PM »
A theory was proposed that this is where the bullet came from, but there are no fragments missing from the stretcher bullet, it has compression damage only, no fragmentation.

The bullet fragments from Connally were never recovered or examined, and there is no exit wound on Connally, all of the bullet fragments are still in his body

Not all bullets exit, and the bullet that travelled through Connally's body did enormous amounts of damage but also lost enormous amounts of inertia and came to a rest in his thigh.  This is not theoretical this is what Connally's medical records say, the bullet is still there.

James, your knowledge on the details of the assassination is extremely lacking. You may want to familiarize yourself with the basics of the case before opining on it. Connally had at least two exit wounds. Three when you consider that the bullet exited his thigh on it's own. There were six fragments of lead detected in his body; five in his wrist and one in his thigh. Four of the fragments in his wrist were removed by Dr. Gregory.