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Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Can anybody provide proof of a successful reenactment of Oswald's feat?
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2018, 03:00:03 AM »
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The headshot is confirmed to have been fired from Oswald's rifle. Two large bullet fragments found in the limo were matched to his rifle.

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Re: Can anybody provide proof of a successful reenactment of Oswald's feat?
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2018, 03:12:56 AM »
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The headshot is confirmed to have been fired from Oswald's rifle. Two large bullet fragments found in the limo were matched to his rifle.
Considering the exit wound, isn't that evidence against rather than for the bullet fragments being from the headshot?

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Re: Can anybody provide proof of a successful reenactment of Oswald's feat?
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2018, 03:29:24 AM »
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Considering the exit wound, isn't that evidence against rather than for the bullet fragments being from the headshot?

What are you referring to as the exit wound?

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Re: Can anybody provide proof of a successful reenactment of Oswald's feat?
« Reply #23 on: April 06, 2018, 03:47:24 AM »
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Considering the exit wound, isn't that evidence against rather than for the bullet fragments being from the headshot?

Try again James,
there is no reenactment accurate.

Even with lasers and 3D scanners the can't copy the situation like in 1963.



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Re: Can anybody provide proof of a successful reenactment of Oswald's feat?
« Reply #24 on: April 06, 2018, 03:52:30 AM »
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If there is only one foot of space between the bottom opening of the window and the floor i am pretty sure he would have to had been laying flat on his stomach to shoot

so, show us a diagram to make those shots.
I am pretty sure that you not can make those shots

And stop with that crap please.





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Re: Can anybody provide proof of a successful reenactment of Oswald's feat?
« Reply #25 on: April 06, 2018, 05:32:53 AM »
Fair enough Paul I assume the problem is my thought that he might have needed to lay down given the dimensions of the situation I think i was pretty close of the dimensions, but admittedly on the idea that it could be done more easily kneeling or with boxes I will certainly trust others that it was possible It does seem like the frame of the bottom of the raised position of the bottom window would be obstructing ones view if one were knelling with your head above the open portion of the window . My main point is to reproduce the dimensions of the snipers nest during reenactment I did not see all the information you have provided previously on this issue until now

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Re: Can anybody provide proof of a successful reenactment of Oswald's feat?
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2018, 05:45:18 AM »
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Fair enough Paul I assume the problem is my thought that he might have needed to lay down given the dimensions of the situation I think i was pretty close of the dimensions, but admittedly on the idea that it could be done more easily kneeling or with boxes I will certainly trust others that it was possible It does seem like the frame of the bottom of the raised position of the bottom window would be obstructing ones view if one were knelling with your head above the open portion of the window . My main point is to reproduce the dimensions of the snipers nest during reenactment I did not see all the information you have provided previously on this issue until now

Go to my tread of the Cramped Snipers nest/ Decoy nest.
You will found a lot of answers on your questions Matt.

Here is the link, start with page 1 please.

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Re: Can anybody provide proof of a successful reenactment of Oswald's feat?
« Reply #27 on: April 06, 2018, 02:18:00 PM »
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Fair enough Paul I assume the problem is my thought that he might have needed to lay down given the dimensions of the situation I think i was pretty close of the dimensions, but admittedly on the idea that it could be done more easily kneeling or with boxes I will certainly trust others that it was possible It does seem like the frame of the bottom of the raised position of the bottom window would be obstructing ones view if one were knelling with your head above the open portion of the window . My main point is to reproduce the dimensions of the snipers nest during reenactment I did not see all the information you have provided previously on this issue until now

I did not see all the information you have provided previously on this issue until now

Paul has presented excellent mathematically verifiable information that proves the feat attributed to the arch villain Lee Harrrrrvey Ossssswald ( Boooo Hisssss) would have been impossible.

admittedly on the idea that it could be done more easily kneeling or with boxes I will certainly trust others that it was possible

Howard Brennan, the prime witness who actually saw a gunman in a window at the time of the murder stated under oath that the man was STANDING and aiming a hunting rifle out of a window......he man was not KNEELING ...or crouching...

It should be immediately apparent that Howard Brennan was NOT describing the Imaginary "Sniper's Nest" window.

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Re: Can anybody provide proof of a successful reenactment of Oswald's feat?
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2018, 03:33:02 PM »

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 If it can be done, then why hasn't anyone done so? Or to put it another way we can put to rest the rumor that it has ever been done on video



I have seen such a show on the Discovery Channel several years ago but have not been able to find it on youtube.

About 10 years ago, Michael Yardley did a one-hour program for the Discovery Channel. It was not allowed to fire a real rifle at Dealey Plaza, but he aimed a rifle mounted with a laser pointer, that would momentarily light up when he pressed the trigger. He was able to hit a moving target on Elm Street this way.

A better test, he was able to hit a car that was towed by a cable, moving at 10 mph, at similar elevation and at the similar angles as the three alleged shots at roughly z153, z222 and z312. This test was done in the countryside, where he was allowed to fire a rifle. He fired 16 times and all 16 times he hit a melon size object. He never missed.

As I recall, the firing angle were more difficult for Michael Yardley than it would have been for Oswald, at least for the second and third shots. The car was not moving directly away from Yardley but at a significant angle.

The tests did show one problem. The rifle he was using, the same model Carcano of Oswald’s, tended to jam. He attempted 7 firing sequences with an attempt to fire 3 shots. But in 3 of the 7 sequences, the rifle jammed at some point. But in 4 of the 7, there was no jam and he got off all 3 shots and they always hit the melon size target. He managed to get off 16 shots altogether and all 16 hit the target.

It is possible, since Oswald owned the rifle, and his wife said he practice dry firing with it, Oswald may have been able to work the bolt more smoothly than Michael Yardley. In any case, even if Oswald was no better than Michael Yardley at avoiding jams, he had a 50-50 chance of getting off all three shots.

My most major problem with this test, was that they did not state, as I recall, if Michael Yardley was using the iron sights or the scope. My impression was he always used the scope. I would like to see a test where a shooter used the iron sights, because the scope was probably misaligned on Oswald’s scope. No special effort was made by the company that sold the rifle to align the scope. Oswald (I reasonably assume) would not have been able to align the scope and probably just used the iron sights. Since the shots were all under 100 yards, I assume that using the iron sights would not be a problem. But I would like to see this demonstrated.

In any case, at least using a Carcano rifle with a properly mounted scope, a good shooter can hit a moving target, at 10 mph, at under 100 yards, without the target moving directly away from the shooter.


This program is not to be confused with aother Discovery Channel programs Michael Yardley partipcated in. This better known show, which does NOT show the scenes I describe was:
     “JFK: Inside the Target Car”

But the correct show was, I believe:
     “Discovery Channel: Unsolved History - JFK Conspiracy”
Made about a year before the “Inside the Target Car” show. I have not been able to find this show on Youtube.

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Re: Can anybody provide proof of a successful reenactment of Oswald's feat?
« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2018, 07:31:54 PM »
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BS! Citation pls.

Mr. EISENBERG - I now hand you a bullet fragment, what appears to be a bullet fragment, in a pill box which is labeled jacket and Lead Q-2,[was admitted as CE-567] and it has certain initials on it. For the record, this was found--this bullet fragment was found--in the front portion of the car in which the President was riding. I ask you whether you are familiar with this object.
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes; I am.
Mr. EISENBERG - Is your mark on--
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir.
Mr. EISENBERG - Did you examine this? Is this a bullet fragment, Mr. Frazier?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir. This consists of a piece of the jacket portion of a bullet from the nose area and a piece of the lead core from under the jacket.
Mr. EISENBERG - How were you able to conclude it is part of the nose area?
Mr. FRAZIER - Because of the rifling marks which extend part way up the side, and then have the characteristic leading edge impressions and no longer continue along the bullet, and by the fact that the bullet has a rounded contour to it which has not been mutilated.
Mr. EISENBERG - Did you examine this bullet to determine whether it had been fired from Exhibit 139 to the exclusion of all other weapons?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir.
Mr. EISENBERG - What was your conclusion?
Mr. FRAZIER - This bullet fragment was fired in this rifle, 139.
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Mr. EISENBERG - Now finally in the category of bullets and bullet fragments, I hand you what is apparently a bullet fragment, which is in a pill box marked Q-3, and which, I state for the record, was also found in the front portion of the President's car, and I ask you whether you are familiar with this item, marked Q-3?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir; this was submitted to me as having been found beside the front seat of the automobile.
Mr. EISENBERG - Your mark is on that fragment?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, it is.
Mr. EISENBERG - When did you receive that fragment, Mr. Frazier?
Mr. FRAZIER - At 11:50 p.m., November 22, 1963, from Special Agent Orrin Bartlett, our liaison agent with the Secret Service, in the FBI laboratory.
Mr. EISENBERG - And the last bullet fragment you examined, Exhibit 567, when did you receive that?
Mr. FRAZIER - It was received at the same time from Special Agent Bartlett.
Mr. EISENBERG - Did you examine both at that time, Mr. Frazier?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir; beginning the following morning, November 23.
Mr. EISENBERG - Mr. Chairman, may I have this bullet fragment marked Q-3 admitted as Commission 569?
Mr. McCLOY - It may be admitted.
Mr. EISENBERG - Mr. Frazier, did you examine this bullet fragment with a view to determining whether it had been fired from the rifle, Exhibit 139?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir.
Mr. EISENBERG - What was your conclusion?
Mr. FRAZIER - This bullet fragment, Exhibit 569, was fired from this particular rifle, 139.
Mr. EISENBERG - Again to the exclusion of all other rifles?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir.

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