Can anybody provide proof of a successful reenactment of Oswald's feat?

Users Currently Browsing This Topic:
0 Members

Author Topic: Can anybody provide proof of a successful reenactment of Oswald's feat?  (Read 139094 times)

Offline Tim Nickerson

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2109
Re: Can anybody provide proof of a successful reenactment of Oswald's feat?
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2018, 02:32:43 AM »
Also there's only one confirmed hit from Oswald, the headshot is not confirmed to be from him, so he only had to hit once on three shots.  His second and third shots missed.

The headshot is confirmed to have been fired from Oswald's rifle. Two large bullet fragments found in the limo were matched to his rifle.

Offline Jack Trojan

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 864
Re: Can anybody provide proof of a successful reenactment of Oswald's feat?
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2018, 03:00:03 AM »
The headshot is confirmed to have been fired from Oswald's rifle. Two large bullet fragments found in the limo were matched to his rifle.

BS! Citation pls.

Offline James Dahl

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 42
Re: Can anybody provide proof of a successful reenactment of Oswald's feat?
« Reply #16 on: April 06, 2018, 03:12:56 AM »
The headshot is confirmed to have been fired from Oswald's rifle. Two large bullet fragments found in the limo were matched to his rifle.
Considering the exit wound, isn't that evidence against rather than for the bullet fragments being from the headshot?

Offline Tim Nickerson

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2109
Re: Can anybody provide proof of a successful reenactment of Oswald's feat?
« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2018, 03:29:24 AM »
Considering the exit wound, isn't that evidence against rather than for the bullet fragments being from the headshot?

What are you referring to as the exit wound?

Offline Matt Grantham

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 902
Re: Can anybody provide proof of a successful reenactment of Oswald's feat?
« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2018, 05:32:53 AM »
Fair enough Paul I assume the problem is my thought that he might have needed to lay down given the dimensions of the situation I think i was pretty close of the dimensions, but admittedly on the idea that it could be done more easily kneeling or with boxes I will certainly trust others that it was possible It does seem like the frame of the bottom of the raised position of the bottom window would be obstructing ones view if one were knelling with your head above the open portion of the window . My main point is to reproduce the dimensions of the snipers nest during reenactment I did not see all the information you have provided previously on this issue until now

Offline Walt Cakebread

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7322
Re: Can anybody provide proof of a successful reenactment of Oswald's feat?
« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2018, 02:18:00 PM »
Fair enough Paul I assume the problem is my thought that he might have needed to lay down given the dimensions of the situation I think i was pretty close of the dimensions, but admittedly on the idea that it could be done more easily kneeling or with boxes I will certainly trust others that it was possible It does seem like the frame of the bottom of the raised position of the bottom window would be obstructing ones view if one were knelling with your head above the open portion of the window . My main point is to reproduce the dimensions of the snipers nest during reenactment I did not see all the information you have provided previously on this issue until now

I did not see all the information you have provided previously on this issue until now

Paul has presented excellent mathematically verifiable information that proves the feat attributed to the arch villain Lee Harrrrrvey Ossssswald ( Boooo Hisssss) would have been impossible.

admittedly on the idea that it could be done more easily kneeling or with boxes I will certainly trust others that it was possible

Howard Brennan, the prime witness who actually saw a gunman in a window at the time of the murder stated under oath that the man was STANDING and aiming a hunting rifle out of a window......he man was not KNEELING ...or crouching...

It should be immediately apparent that Howard Brennan was NOT describing the Imaginary "Sniper's Nest" window.

Offline Joe Elliott

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1845
Re: Can anybody provide proof of a successful reenactment of Oswald's feat?
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2018, 03:33:02 PM »


 If it can be done, then why hasn't anyone done so? Or to put it another way we can put to rest the rumor that it has ever been done on video



I have seen such a show on the Discovery Channel several years ago but have not been able to find it on youtube.

About 10 years ago, Michael Yardley did a one-hour program for the Discovery Channel. It was not allowed to fire a real rifle at Dealey Plaza, but he aimed a rifle mounted with a laser pointer, that would momentarily light up when he pressed the trigger. He was able to hit a moving target on Elm Street this way.

A better test, he was able to hit a car that was towed by a cable, moving at 10 mph, at similar elevation and at the similar angles as the three alleged shots at roughly z153, z222 and z312. This test was done in the countryside, where he was allowed to fire a rifle. He fired 16 times and all 16 times he hit a melon size object. He never missed.

As I recall, the firing angle were more difficult for Michael Yardley than it would have been for Oswald, at least for the second and third shots. The car was not moving directly away from Yardley but at a significant angle.

The tests did show one problem. The rifle he was using, the same model Carcano of Oswald?s, tended to jam. He attempted 7 firing sequences with an attempt to fire 3 shots. But in 3 of the 7 sequences, the rifle jammed at some point. But in 4 of the 7, there was no jam and he got off all 3 shots and they always hit the melon size target. He managed to get off 16 shots altogether and all 16 hit the target.

It is possible, since Oswald owned the rifle, and his wife said he practice dry firing with it, Oswald may have been able to work the bolt more smoothly than Michael Yardley. In any case, even if Oswald was no better than Michael Yardley at avoiding jams, he had a 50-50 chance of getting off all three shots.

My most major problem with this test, was that they did not state, as I recall, if Michael Yardley was using the iron sights or the scope. My impression was he always used the scope. I would like to see a test where a shooter used the iron sights, because the scope was probably misaligned on Oswald?s scope. No special effort was made by the company that sold the rifle to align the scope. Oswald (I reasonably assume) would not have been able to align the scope and probably just used the iron sights. Since the shots were all under 100 yards, I assume that using the iron sights would not be a problem. But I would like to see this demonstrated.

In any case, at least using a Carcano rifle with a properly mounted scope, a good shooter can hit a moving target, at 10 mph, at under 100 yards, without the target moving directly away from the shooter.


This program is not to be confused with aother Discovery Channel programs Michael Yardley partipcated in. This better known show, which does NOT show the scenes I describe was:
     ?JFK: Inside the Target Car?

But the correct show was, I believe:
     ?Discovery Channel: Unsolved History - JFK Conspiracy?
Made about a year before the ?Inside the Target Car? show. I have not been able to find this show on Youtube.