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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Did the CIA assassinate JFK?
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2018, 04:52:39 PM »
This is where you tell us no one is alleging a conspiracy.  It's all in our minds that you kooks believe that everyone with the possible exception of Oswald was involved.  Thus, a strawman to suggest that there is no evidence that the CIA was involved in the assassination.

And now meet resident grumpy old man the second, who will insist that there is a "mountain of evidence" against Oswald, without ever actually specifying what it is, because he's too busy making up vast conspiracy scenarios to argue against.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did the CIA assassinate JFK?
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2018, 05:01:08 PM »
Either way, he had them shut down and stopped any attempts to kill Castro. Just more of a reason to get rid of Kennedy.

True....  JFK did have the camps raided.....   He had no control over those training camps that Hoover sanctioned.   But at the same time that he was having those camps shut down he and Bobby were controlling other camps that they sanctioned.

It doesn't take much imagination to imagine J. Edgar Hoover's rage at being forced to send his agents along in support of the ATF when they raided the camps that Hoover was supporting.
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Re: Did the CIA assassinate JFK?
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2018, 08:16:31 PM »
Yes, the LNer shills are always the 1st to crawl out of the woodwork to ridicule your OP.  If the JFK assassination was a coup d'etat, then of course the CIA was an integral part. They were coup experts. Only the LNers don't think this was a conspiracy and they resort to ad homs because CT=kook. But that's just how your hard core commie shill operates.  ;)

Here it is in a nutshell for you LNers:

This was an ordinary coup d'etat. Do you actually believe the US was incapable of a coup in 63? There were only 3 major players required to pull it off: Dulles, Hoover and Johnson. Nixon called them "animals" and they all had motives to at least comply with a coup.

Allen Dulles was director of the CIA and an American Nazi at the time. He was the architect of the coup because JFK threw him under the bus over the BOPs fiasco. Simple as that. What was he going to do, go quietly into the night? But what actually sealed JFK's fate was threatening to dismantle the CIA. That brought James Angleton into the fray, who was BFF with Dulles and happened to have salacious photo leverage over Hoover at the time. Hoover was the original mob boss then who hated the Kennedys, especially Bobby who was hell bent on attacking the mob and knew of Hoover's mob connections. Hoover didn't need much persuasion to go along with the coup. These were desperate times for these leaders. Which brings us to Johnson as the last piece of the puzzle. He had every reason to go along because he was faced with the choice of going to jail for his various criminal connections or be complicit in a coup and become POTUS. You do the math.

Oswald was a singleton agent drawn from the fake defector program to be the patsy. Thomas Arthur Vallee was Plan A in Chicago, Oswald was Plan B in Dallas. The fake defector program was ran by..surprise, surprise, James Jesus Angleton who was director of CIA counter-intel at the time.

All the other players in the coup were selected underlings, such as SS limo driver Greer, Dr. Humes, Capt. Fritz and a few more DPD. Hoover did the most work to make the coup happen. He used the FBI, SS, DPD and the mob as the "cleaners" to drive the narrative that there was a single LN shooter. The CIA set up Oswald as the patsy and organized the hit.

In response to your OP, yes the CIA was involved in assassinating JFK. The architect of the coup, Dulles, coincidentally became a member of the WC who determined that LHO acted alone. Imagine that. He's pictured here 2nd from the right. Who do you think was running that show?



The big question is why LNers defend the conspirators in favor of the improbable idea that Oswald was a lone nut assassin in a perfect storm?
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Did the CIA assassinate JFK?
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2018, 01:10:33 AM »
The architect of the coup, Dulles, coincidentally became a member of the WC who determined that LHO acted alone. Imagine that.

This alone tells me the WC was a hoax. The CIA would immediately know anything the commission had in the pipeline that could pose a threat to them. Amazing LBJ got away with it.


LBJ got away with murder simply because we Americans had been petrified with fear of nuclear war in the autumn of 1962.
The evil, cunning LBJ ( Lyin Bastroid Johnson) calculated that if he made it appear that the communists were the killers us pissants would let him skip quietly away by  suggesting that the Russians were behind the murder, but we would risk nuclear war if we confronted them.....and since Lee Oswald was dead  we could simply blame everything on the arch villain Lee Harrrrrvey Ossssswald  ( Booooo, Hissss)

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Re: Did the CIA assassinate JFK?
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2018, 01:37:42 AM »
Yes, the LNer shills are always the 1st to crawl out of the woodwork to ridicule your OP.  If the JFK assassination was a coup d'etat, then of course the CIA was an integral part. They were coup experts. Only the LNers don't think this was a conspiracy and they resort to ad homs because CT=kook. But that's just how your hard core commie shill operates.  ;)

Here it is in a nutshell for you LNers:

This was an ordinary coup d'etat. Do you actually believe the US was incapable of a coup in 63? There were only 3 major players required to pull it off: Dulles, Hoover and Johnson. Nixon called them "animals" and they all had motives to at least comply with a coup.

Allen Dulles was director of the CIA and an American Nazi at the time. He was the architect of the coup because JFK threw him under the bus over the BOPs fiasco. Simple as that. What was he going to do, go quietly into the night? But what actually sealed JFK's fate was threatening to dismantle the CIA. That brought James Angleton into the fray, who was BFF with Dulles and happened to have salacious photo leverage over Hoover at the time. Hoover was the original mob boss then who hated the Kennedys, especially Bobby who was hell bent on attacking the mob and knew of Hoover's mob connections. Hoover didn't need much persuasion to go along with the coup. These were desperate times for these leaders. Which brings us to Johnson as the last piece of the puzzle. He had every reason to go along because he was faced with the choice of going to jail for his various criminal connections or be complicit in a coup and become POTUS. You do the math.

Oswald was a singleton agent drawn from the fake defector program to be the patsy. Thomas Arthur Vallee was Plan A in Chicago, Oswald was Plan B in Dallas. The fake defector program was ran by..surprise, surprise, James Jesus Angleton who was director of CIA counter-intel at the time.

All the other players in the coup were selected underlings, such as SS limo driver Greer, Dr. Humes, Capt. Fritz and a few more DPD. Hoover did the most work to make the coup happen. He used the FBI, SS, DPD and the mob as the "cleaners" to drive the narrative that there was a single LN shooter. The CIA set up Oswald as the patsy and organized the hit.

In response to your OP, yes the CIA was involved in assassinating JFK. The architect of the coup, Dulles, coincidentally became a member of the WC who determined that LHO acted alone. Imagine that. He's pictured here 2nd from the right. Who do you think was running that show?



The big question is why LNers defend the conspirators in favor of the improbable idea that Oswald was a lone nut assassin in a perfect storm?

The big question is why LNers defend the conspirators in favor of the improbable idea that Oswald was a lone nut assassin in a perfect storm?

I believe part of the reason some LNers defend the BS tale is because of their egotistical arrogance....They think that they are sooo smart and would be devastated with embarrassment if it was shown that they are not very smart and in reality they have been colossal gullible suckers .....Richard Smith fits perfectly in this group

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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Did the CIA assassinate JFK?
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2018, 03:36:58 PM »
And now meet resident grumpy old man the second, who will insist that there is a "mountain of evidence" against Oswald, without ever actually specifying what it is, because he's too busy making up vast conspiracy scenarios to argue against.

Yes, I'm the one making up vast conspiracy claims in a thread titled "Did the CIA assassinate JFK"?  LOL.  You are really unhinged.  And you are here night and day for years, but don't know the evidence against Oswald?  I guess it hasn't been laid out in excruciating detail in numerous official investigations, books etc.  You need me to go through all again so you can exercise your compulsion disorder with the same song and dance rebuttals.    No thanks.

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Re: Did the CIA assassinate JFK?
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2018, 05:58:34 PM »
Yes, I'm the one making up vast conspiracy claims in a thread titled "Did the CIA assassinate JFK"?  LOL.  You are really unhinged.  And you are here night and day for years, but don't know the evidence against Oswald?  I guess it hasn't been laid out in excruciating detail in numerous official investigations, books etc.  You need me to go through all again so you can exercise your compulsion disorder with the same song and dance rebuttals.    No thanks.

If only there was, let me suggest off the wall, a movie that showed these crazy conspiracy theories we believe are being disseminated.

I dunno, maybe something titled, "John F. Kennedy"? Or something along those lines. Maybe just use his initials?

But darn it, no, we don't have anything to point to that indicates that such ideas are out there.


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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Did the CIA assassinate JFK?
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2018, 08:19:03 PM »
If only there was, let me suggest off the wall, a movie that showed these crazy conspiracy theories we believe are being disseminated.

I dunno, maybe something titled, "John F. Kennedy"? Or something along those lines. Maybe just use his initials?

But darn it, no, we don't have anything to point to that indicates that such ideas are out there.

Yes, where do we keep coming up with the idea that anyone is suggesting a conspiracy (John's alleged strawman)?  I mean just look at that sinister picture Jack posted of all those white guys in ties like (cue sinister music) Gerald Ford with the notation:  "The big question is why LNers defend the conspirators in favor of the improbable idea that Oswald was a lone nut assassin in a perfect storm?"  He could be suggesting a gathering for lunch or something unrelated to the JFK assassination but he just decide to share on the JFK ASSASSINATION forum.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Did the CIA assassinate JFK?
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2018, 10:08:28 PM »
Yes, I'm the one making up vast conspiracy claims in a thread titled "Did the CIA assassinate JFK"?  LOL.  You are really unhinged.  And you are here night and day for years, but don't know the evidence against Oswald?  I guess it hasn't been laid out in excruciating detail in numerous official investigations, books etc.  You need me to go through all again so you can exercise your compulsion disorder with the same song and dance rebuttals.    No thanks.

Who do you think you're fooling?  You won't go through the evidence because it doesn't actually support the conclusions that you have come to.  Discussing the details of the evidence is like kryptonite to LNers.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2018, 10:21:16 PM »
Your strawmen are legendary, Richard.  Just to give you the most recent example, somebody asked how a ring in a cup is evidence of murder (short answer: it's not), and you go off on a rant about kooks thinking that conspirators planted a ring to incriminate Oswald.

Which is how you respond to every question about the reliability or relevance of things that are claimed to be evidence against Oswald.