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Offline Jerry Organ

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #56 on: January 10, 2018, 02:38:38 AM »
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Nice try, but research shows that the catalog number on the order form was attached to a 36" Carbine. Kleins had no 40" models until April 1963.

I meant the description. The rifle displayed is irrelevant to the discussion. Can you cite evidence showing that LHO received a rifle at his P. O. Box?

The 40" Carcanos cost Klein's a dollar more from the wholesalers. When does the price in the Klein's ads change?

In ads that began in magazines dated August 1962, the advertised price of the base rifle increased one dollar to $12.88 (the "package deal" for the base rifle with a scope remained at $19.95). The Cat. No. also changed to C20-T1196. In ads running April 1963 and onwards, Klein's were selling 40" Carcanos for $12.88 and with Cat. No. C20-T1196.

Evidently, the illustration, length and weigh were in error if Klein's is amending those details as time goes on BUT keeping the Cat. No. and $12.88 price.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #57 on: January 10, 2018, 02:44:26 AM »
That is not evidence that a rifle was received at his P.O. Box. You're sunk.


Yeah whatever;

Oswald ordered a Carcano Rifle from Kleins.
Oswald was sent a Carcano(C2766) from Kleins.
Oswald was photographed with a Carcano(C2766).
Oswald's rifle was discovered on the 6th floor at about the same time Oswald was on the run after killing a Police Officer.



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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #58 on: January 10, 2018, 02:54:42 AM »
There was no "T" in the Field & Stream ad in evidence. Read my post as it lays all this out. Bottom line -- Klein's had NO 40" models to ship on purpose or by accident in March 1963.



Huh? Kleins received C2766 in February.





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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #59 on: January 10, 2018, 03:45:46 AM »
If you actually did any research instead of simply regurgitating what you were told you would realize that C2766 tied to a 36" Carbine. I will say it again since you keep ignoring it -- Klein's did not sell 40" models until April.




The evidence which you have not yet refuted can be traced from Crescent Firearms through to Kleins then on to Oswald and the Depository.













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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #60 on: January 10, 2018, 10:32:32 AM »
The Commission provided no evidence that the control numbers on those sheets were entered into the master log so you can stuff Waldman 4 where the sun doesn't shine.

Further, if the two sheets existed on the Nov 22/23 Klein's would immediately have produced them when the FBI showed up. All they had to do was browse the orders on micro film looking for VC-836/2766, starting Feb 22. Supposedly C 2766 was shipped Mar 20 so they only had to go through one month of orders to spot C 2766.

Instead we are told they spent the whole night, using two viewers, looking for C 2766!




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The Commission provided no evidence that the control numbers on those sheets were entered into the master log so you can stuff Waldman 4 where the sun doesn't shine.

Tom, Waldman 4 was presented by the Vice President of the company and is a legal document and that's where it ends.

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Further, if the two sheets existed on the Nov 22/23 Klein's would immediately have produced them when the FBI showed up. All they had to do was browse the orders on micro film looking for VC-836/2766, starting Feb 22. Supposedly C 2766 was shipped Mar 20 so they only had to go through one month of orders to spot C 2766.

Instead we are told they spent the whole night, using two viewers, looking for C 2766!

Kleins advertised across the country and sold sporting goods, more than just rifles, revolvers, shotguns, ammo, scopes and pistols, so tell us how you know how many microfilms that they processed and how do you know how much data they had to scan through?

Mr. BELIN. What kinds of products does Klein's sell?
Mr. WALDMAN. Sporting goods in the majority, with some few specialty items which appeal to the male consumer.


Orders from 1 day.





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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #61 on: January 10, 2018, 07:45:43 PM »
It seems that Oswald made his paper bag assuming that he received the 36 inch rifle, the look on Oswald's face when he realized his 38 inch bag wouldn't fit his 40 inch rifle would have been priceless! Hahaha!

"It seems".  LOL.

It seems that if Oswald wanted to make a paper bag for a rifle that was in the Paine's garage, he would have used the wrapping paper and tape that was already in that garage rather than risk getting fired for stealing supplies before he could pull off his big event.  Particularly since Troy West didn't leave his wrapping station even for lunch.

Silly assassin.

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #62 on: January 10, 2018, 07:56:53 PM »
Oswald was photographed with C2766.

Oswald was photographed with a firearm that Mytton wishes was C2766.

There, I fixed it for you.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #63 on: January 10, 2018, 08:06:33 PM »
Klein's received and catalogued C2766 on 22/2/1963



How many different C2766s were there?