Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle

[Jerry Freeman]

Sorry, David, but this is a extremely weak argument....It does not show  that Michaelis actually knew for sure the payment was received. One thing we do know for sure is that no document has ever surfaced regarding a money transfer of $19.95 from Dallas to Seaport. 

Even if there was...there is no record [that I can find] verifying from whom the payment was received--- making for an even more feeble argument.

[Jerry Freeman]

The proof that Oswald picked up the revolver, regardless of where he picked it up, is the undeniable fact that Mr. Oswald had Revolver V510210 in his hands when he was arrested in the Texas Theater on 11/22/63.

                                                                                                                       David Von Pein

The Michaelis Exhibit #2 does show 510210 written in. That could have possibly been at any time an otherwise numberless document or copy of it was handled. Why wasn't it typed in with the rest of the info on the invoice? It looks illegitimate funny as hell. I wonder if the OSWALD DID IT crowd would be willing to stake their lives on the honesty and integrity of a 1963 Dallas Police Dept? I sure as hell wouldn't.



 

[David Von Pein]

The Michaelis Exhibit #2 does show 510210 written in. .... Why wasn't it typed in with the rest of the info on the invoice?

Because that's (obviously) not the way it was done at mail-order outfits that sold firearms. The serial numbers are WRITTEN IN by hand once the company knows for sure which gun is going to actually be shipped to that particular customer. The exact same "Written In By Hand" serial number occurred on Waldman Exhibit No. 7 for Oswald's rifle too. The "C2766" isn't typed in; it's handwritten. It's just the way those type of transactions work. (Or do you think the "C2766" was written in by some plotter AFTER the assassination?)

[John Iacoletti]

The Michaelis Exhibit #2 does show 510210 written in. That could have possibly been at any time an otherwise numberless document or copy of it was handled. Why wasn't it typed in with the rest of the info on the invoice?

“Coincidentally”, the same was the case on the Klein’s “order blank”.

[John Iacoletti]

Because that's (obviously) not the way it was done at mail-order outfits that sold firearms.

Obviously. 

[John Iacoletti]

The proof that Oswald picked up the revolver, regardless of where he picked it up, is the undeniable fact that Mr. Oswald had Revolver V510210 in his hands when he was arrested in the Texas Theater on 11/22/63.
                                                                                                                    David Von Pein

That is absolutely deniable. It’s not even true. By all accounts the struggle for the gun happened before the (illegal) arrest.

But there isn’t any evidence that V510210 was even there in the theater. Gerald Hill pulled a revolver with no documented chain of custody out of his pocket 2 hours later at the station, several cops initialed it then, and then it was submitted into evidence.

[David Von Pein]

...there isn’t any evidence that V510210 was even there in the theater.

 

[Rick Plant]

There is. CTers, of course, will forever ignore it, but there is evidence that the COD balance of $19.95 was paid to Seaport. It's in Heinz Michaelis' WC testimony [7 H 378-379]....

JOE BALL -- "Is there anything in your files which shows that the Railway Express did remit to you the $19.95?"

HEINZ MICHAELIS -- "The fact that the exhibit number...was attached to the red copy of the invoice...indicates that the money was received."

Plus, the word "Paid" is written right on the Seaport invoice too (Michaelis Exhibit No. 2). But I guess CTers must think the word "PAID" means exactly the opposite and that Seaport never received the $19.95 balance at all, huh? ~shrug~

The word "paid" is written right there on the invoice.  Back in the old days a lot of businesses used to stamp the word "paid" on invoices and receipts.