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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #128 on: January 18, 2018, 08:40:14 PM »
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And by "evidence of Oswald's guilt in the death of Tippit", Bill Brown means an identification by an "utter screwball" in an unfair lineup who had to be asked 6 times if she recognized anybody, shells not even found by law enforcement at the crime scene (which didn't match in number the brands of the slugs in Tippit) some with disappearing initials, and a gun that Gerald Hill pulled out of his pocket 2 hours after Oswald was arrested without any probable cause.

I don't need Helen Markham.  Oswald is a cop-killer; no need to rely on Markham at all.

Shells were found by Barbara Davis and Virginia Davis and turned over to law enforcement.  The chain of custody for these two shells is perfectly intact.  These shells are evidence.  They were linked, through ballistics, to the revolver taken from Oswald to the exclusion of any other weapon in the world.  Whether you like it or not, these shells would be used to convict Oswald.

Unless, of course, you FINALLY have something to support your presumption that the shells aren't authentic.  Do you?

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #129 on: January 18, 2018, 11:16:38 PM »
I don't need Helen Markham.  Oswald is a cop-killer; no need to rely on Markham at all.

Shells were found by Barbara Davis and Virginia Davis and turned over to law enforcement.  The chain of custody for these two shells is perfectly intact.  These shells are evidence.  They were linked, through ballistics, to the revolver taken from Oswald to the exclusion of any other weapon in the world.  Whether you like it or not, these shells would be used to convict Oswald.

Unless, of course, you FINALLY have something to support your presumption that the shells aren't authentic.  Do you?

Shells were found by Barbara Davis and Virginia Davis and turned over to law enforcement.

Since the S&W revolver dumps all spent shells at the same time.....How do you explain the killer taking one spent shell at a time from the gun he was unloading?  The descriptions given by four different witnesses indicate the killer was NOT using a S&W revolver.

 They were linked, through ballistics, to the revolver taken from Oswald to the exclusion of any other weapon in the world.

Can you prove that the shells that were turned over to the Warren Commission are the same shells that were found at the scene?.....How do you account for the absence of the initials Officer Poe and Detective Pete Barnes ?

Do you FINALLY have something to support your presumption that the shells are authentic.  Do you?

Offline Gary Craig

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #130 on: January 18, 2018, 11:28:53 PM »

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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #131 on: January 18, 2018, 11:33:35 PM »




All this proves is that when they had the opportunity to tamper with the evidence against Oswald none of it was altered, which unfortunately for you has a devastating effect on your client, sorry about that. :'(



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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #132 on: January 19, 2018, 12:19:23 AM »
I don't need Helen Markham.  Oswald is a cop-killer; no need to rely on Markham at all.

No need to rely on the only person who witnessed the crime?

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Shells were found by Barbara Davis and Virginia Davis and turned over to law enforcement.  The chain of custody for these two shells is perfectly intact.  These shells are evidence.

Prove those shells were found at the crime scene.  Or even the same ones found by the Davises.

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  They were linked, through ballistics, to the revolver taken from Oswald to the exclusion of any other weapon in the world.

Prove that revolver was taken from Oswald.

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  Whether you like it or not, these shells would be used to convict Oswald.

That's easy for you to say.

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Unless, of course, you FINALLY have something to support your presumption that the shells aren't authentic.  Do you?

You can't demonstrate their provenance.  That's enough.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #133 on: January 19, 2018, 12:23:25 AM »
All this proves is that when they had the opportunity to tamper with the evidence against Oswald none of it was altered, which unfortunately for you has a devastating effect on your client, sorry about that. :'(

Dream on.  What it shows is that there's no good reason to think that the shells that Benavides handed to Poe were any of the C47-C50 shells.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #134 on: January 19, 2018, 08:10:17 AM »
Said by a guy who supports a theory with NO supporting evidence whatsoever. Why don't you require proof?

I need to prove your speculations? I don't think so...

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Lee Harvey Oswald Ordered The Rifle
« Reply #135 on: January 19, 2018, 06:03:40 PM »
I need to prove your speculations? I don't think so...

No he's asking you why you don't require proof for what you believe.