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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4190 on: April 27, 2019, 09:47:48 AM »
"Assuming that Prayer Person didn't substantially move in that 1/10 of a second, we can center on PP and see that he/she is the furthest away object and what can also be seen on the wall beside PP is PP's soft shadow created by the sunlight reflecting off all the people and is further evidence of PP's position on the top landing."






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John,

Very interesting work, especially regarding PP's shadow.

1) Does this mean Prayer Person wasn't standing awkwardly for thirty seconds or so with one foot on the landing, and the other foot on the top step?

2) If Prayer Person was the farthest person from Darnell's camera, and if Frazier was 6' 1.5" tall, what would you judge PP's height to be closer to --  Sarah Stanton's 5' 4", or Oswald's 5' 9.5"?

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« Reply #4191 on: April 27, 2019, 03:44:46 PM »
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What nonsense!

Why, Mr Cakebread, when you read the words "Then went outside to watch P. parade", do you feel the need to replace its perfectly plain meaning with a tortured meaning of your own invention?

Listen to what Mr Oswald is telling us through Agent Hosty's notes: I was out front when the President passed.

This all-important claim was suppressed. Why on earth would you not celebrate the fact that it is suppressed no more, instead of throwing illogical assertions at it?

Bizarre  ::)

Listen to what Mr Oswald is telling us through Agent Hosty's notes: I was out front when the President passed.

You're reading Hosty's interpretation  of what he thought Lee said.     If those notes were written by Lee Oswald THEN I might look at it differently.

This may be too simple for you because you seem to enjoy making things complicated.....BUT....Even if Lee did tell the interrogators that he went outside to watch the parade AFTER going to the second floor to buy a Coca Cola and AFTER he met Roy Truly and Marrion Baker there in that second floor lunchroom,and AFTER he returned to the Domino room and AFTER he finished his lunch he THEN went outside to watch the parade not knowing that the pared no longer existed.

You simply are desperately trying to put Lee outside in front of the TSBD as the Parade was passing by and WHILE the shots were being fired.....

Question...WHAT IS THE ONE THING THAT ALL SPECTATORS REPORTED?  ...answer:...    Every last one of the spectators reported hearing gun shots.....Did Lee Oswald EVER say anything about hearing gunshots?     ....Answer ....NO he did not.....  WHY?   Because he was in a place in which the gunshots could not be heard....a place like the second Floor lunchroom ...or the stair well between floors.



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« Reply #4192 on: April 27, 2019, 03:49:53 PM »
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This may be too simple for you because you seem to enjoy making things complicated.....BUT....Even if Lee did tell the interrogators that he went outside to watch the parade AFTER going to the second floor to buy a Coca Cola and AFTER he met Roy Truly and Marrion Baker there in that second floor lunchroom [...]

The encounter between Mr Oswald and Officer Baker in the second-floor lunchroom just after the assassination never happened, Mr Cakebread!

It was invented on the night of 11/22/63 as a way of taking Mr Oswald away from the front entrance for the shooting.

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« Reply #4193 on: April 27, 2019, 05:13:21 PM »
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The encounter between Mr Oswald and Officer Baker in the second-floor lunchroom just after the assassination never happened, Mr Cakebread!

It was invented on the night of 11/22/63 as a way of taking Mr Oswald away from the front entrance for the shooting.

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As I said, Alan....You're FOS!....   The encounter in the second floor lunchroom definitely DID happen...... The affidavit of Baker  that was taken BEFORE 5:00 pm  1/22/63 confirms that Baker saw Lee in the second floor lunchroom about 75 seconds after the shooting....

Alan, I'm losing respect for your opinions.....  You're a good researcher and have discovered some very interesting and revealing information.....But this outrageous idea that Baker and Truly never encountered Lee Oswald in the second floor lunchroom is  simply bizarre .....   If the encounter never happened as you purpose.....Then why the hell would the "investigators" spend so much time and effort to attempt to verify and document that Lee could have traveled from the sixth floor to the lunchroom in a mere 75 seconds????   
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« Reply #4194 on: April 27, 2019, 08:37:42 PM »
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The affidavit of Baker  that was taken BEFORE 5:00 pm  1/22/63 confirms that Baker saw Lee in the second floor lunchroom about 75 seconds after the shooting....

OMG, really? A same-day affidavit from Officer Baker confirming the lunchroom encounter? I didn't know about this... how embarrassing!

What exactly does it say?

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« Reply #4194 on: April 27, 2019, 08:37:42 PM »

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« Reply #4195 on: April 27, 2019, 08:50:36 PM »
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OMG, really? A same-day affidavit from Officer Baker confirming the lunchroom encounter? I didn't know about this... how embarrassing!

What exactly does it say?

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I'll be interested to see this as well, Alan.

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« Reply #4196 on: April 27, 2019, 10:59:19 PM »
Stanton is proven to be Prayer Man because of Davidson's enhancement where he proved it was the image of a woman gotten from the Wiegman original with his metadata...As soon as we get the Wiegman original it will show The Lithping Larry Grayson "Oooh Shut That Door" doppleganger is telling a non-truth and that the exact same woman's face Davidson brought out is seen in the original showing that The Lithping Larry Grayson "Oooh Shut That Door" doppleganger's claim that it is a freak mirage is the silly excuse it is...

The Lithping Larry Grayson "Oooh Shut That Door" doppleganger's choice for Stanton down the east side of the steps is not Stanton and The Lithping Larry Grayson "Oooh Shut That Door" doppleganger and his followers refuse to answer for the evidence that proves this like Frazier saying he and Stanton were furthest back in to the shadows on the landing as well as Lovelady placing Stanton against the west wall 40 seconds earlier...So that means The Lithping Larry Grayson "Oooh Shut That Door" doppleganger hasn't located Stanton and has failed to prove his case... 

The Lithping Larry Grayson "Oooh Shut That Door" doppleganger refuses to answer for the fact Prayer Man is not behind Lovelady in Altgens...Frazier is behind and Prayer Man is to Lovelady's right...The Lithping Larry Grayson "Oooh Shut That Door" doppleganger is falsely saying Lovelady was about to name Oswald as the person standing behind him in his Commission testimony and that Oswald was Prayer Man...The only problem with that is Frazier is standing behind Lovelady...Meanwhile Lovelady has already named Stanton as being the person to his right in Altgens...Prayer Man is to Lovelady's right in Altgens...

We have proven beyond a doubt that Stanton is Prayer Man...If you look at the Stancak overhead graphic of the portal Stancak shows sun on Prayer Man's bent leg...However if you go to the Darnell image of Prayer Man there is no sun on Prayer Man's leg...There is no bent leg at all...This proves that Prayer Man is standing on the landing and is therefore too short to be Oswald when compared to Frazier...When I pointed this out to Stancak at Moricet's forum he protested that too many people were attacking his evidence and he was going to retreat back to the other forum...He never, however, admitted this fatal gaffe he made in his own graphic that once again proved what I was saying was correct and had proven Prayer Man was Stanton...

The reason Stancak never did a cartoon graphic for the Wiegman scene is because it would instantly show that his claim that Prayer Man has a foot on the step in Wiegman would be impossible for the same reason that Prayer Man's left side would have to be in sun for him to be in that position...And none of the untruthful Prayer Man mob ask Stancak to do that Wiegman graphic because they know what it will show...

There are some highly untruthful people involved in the pro-Prayer Man camp...
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« Reply #4197 on: April 27, 2019, 11:07:35 PM »
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You're reading Hosty's interpretation  of what he thought Lee said.     If those notes were written by Lee Oswald THEN I might look at it differently.

This may be too simple for you because you seem to enjoy making things complicated.....BUT....Even if Lee did tell the interrogators that he went outside to watch the parade AFTER going to the second floor to buy a Coca Cola and AFTER he met Roy Truly and Marrion Baker there in that second floor lunchroom,and AFTER he returned to the Domino room and AFTER he finished his lunch he THEN went outside to watch the parade not knowing that the pared no longer existed.

You simply are desperately trying to put Lee outside in front of the TSBD as the Parade was passing by and WHILE the shots were being fired.....

Question...WHAT IS THE ONE THING THAT ALL SPECTATORS REPORTED?  ...answer:...    Every last one of the spectators reported hearing gun shots.....Did Lee Oswald EVER say anything about hearing gunshots?     ....Answer ....NO he did not.....  WHY?   Because he was in a place in which the gunshots could not be heard....a place like the second Floor lunchroom ...or the stair well between floors.


I've been saying this for years...

The reason no one ever asked Oswald if he heard the shots is because they did not want to provoke him to say he was in the 2nd floor lunch room during the shots...

In his Commission testimony Fritz did say he was fairly certain Oswald told him he was in the 2nd floor lunch room during the shots...

Alan doesn't admit that Sarah Stanton seeing Oswald with a Coke at around 12:17 makes it very unlikely he traveled from there to the 1st floor and then came back up to get a 2nd Coke...Alan gives no heed to the fact Oswald was obviously waiting for Mrs Reid and the lunch room ladies to clear out and he then went in to the 2nd floor lunch room after they had all left...Carolyn Arnold was the wild card he hadn't expected and caught him in there at 12:25...And that's where he was during the shots and after when Baker & Truly encountered him...

Stanton is on record as taking the elevator back upstairs when she came back inside...Which almost certainly means she took it on her way out to see the motorcade...The front elevator is separated from the front stairs so that means Stanton could not have seen Oswald by the front stairs...

The Lithping Larry Grayson "Oooh Shut That Door" doppleganger is afraid of me and doesn't dare come over here and have a fair debate because he knows he'll be crushed...He is afraid like a little girl...



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« Reply #4198 on: April 27, 2019, 11:38:25 PM »
The Armstrong doubters haven't figured out yet that Geneva Hine is the teller of non truths and she was gotten to...She saw the T-shirt Oswald walk out the glass doors to the front steps but was gotten to and said she saw nothing...The Prayer Man people say Mrs Reid is the teller of non truths and Hine is the truth-teller but they have it backwards...Hine was gotten to because she was an inconvenient witness to Oswald coming from the 2nd floor lunch room...She was silenced because she saw Oswald wearing a white T-shirt and not a reddish brown shirt...This Oswald was seen hiding in the storage closet under the front stairs by Campbell minutes later when he came back from the Knoll...The Commission avoided asking Campbell what his Oswald was wearing because it was a white t-shirt and was "Lee"... 

Carol Reed told me she ran right back inside and that the elevator wasn't working...She said it must have had the electricity turned off...Carol Reed is not in Hine's witnessing because she was told by a cop to hide under her desk and not come out and she did for several hours...The haters are not even interested in this exclusive new evidence...
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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4199 on: April 28, 2019, 04:07:08 PM »
Wow, back with a vengeance eh Brian. So basically you're the forum's version of genital warts . :-[

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