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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4170 on: April 26, 2019, 09:36:19 PM »
No need----------since 19 February 2019-----------to speculate about what Mr Oswald had to drink!:



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According to these notes....Lee returned to the first floor after buying a coke ( that would have been AFTER the Baker Truly encounter and after 12:33 )  He then ate his lunch in the domino room ( let's allow him just 5 minutes to gulp down his lunch) that makes it about 12:38 that he went outside to watch a non existent parade....And wasn't this the time that he was allegedly boarding Mc Watter's bus??


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4171 on: April 26, 2019, 10:15:48 PM »
According to these notes....Lee returned to the first floor after buying a coke ( that would have been AFTER the Baker Truly encounter and after 12:33 )

What nonsense!

Why, Mr Cakebread, when you read the words "Then went outside to watch P. parade", do you feel the need to replace its perfectly plain meaning with a tortured meaning of your own invention?

Listen to what Mr Oswald is telling us through Agent Hosty's notes: I was out front when the President passed.

This all-important claim was suppressed. Why on earth would you not celebrate the fact that it is suppressed no more, instead of throwing illogical assertions at it?

Bizarre  ::)

Online Tom Scully

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4172 on: April 27, 2019, 12:22:27 AM »
Gosh...... I miss

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.  I miss even more the images he should have posted along with his theories.  I wonder what he's a-gonna do about Mary Pinchot?


Speaking of Culto, he pointed out this, from Peter Janney's 2004, Lost Light Manuscript.:


No instruction has been received to retrieve the entity recently removed from the island.

Is this good news or bad? I am half expecting to soon read posts by a new member of this forum named Ralph Yates.
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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4173 on: April 27, 2019, 03:04:41 AM »

The following 3D red/cyan composite was created from panning frames taken a microsecond apart meaning that the two frames are separated horizontally and can be combined stereoscopically to create depth, in the image below the amount of red blue separation increases as the objects get closer to the camera. Now assuming that Prayer Person didn't substantially move in that 1/10 of a second, we can center on PP and see that he/she is the furthest away object and what can also be seen on the wall beside PP is PP's soft shadow created by the sunlight reflecting off all the people and is further evidence of PP's position on the top landing.







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Online Thomas Graves

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4174 on: April 27, 2019, 09:47:48 AM »
"Assuming that Prayer Person didn't substantially move in that 1/10 of a second, we can center on PP and see that he/she is the furthest away object and what can also be seen on the wall beside PP is PP's soft shadow created by the sunlight reflecting off all the people and is further evidence of PP's position on the top landing."






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John,

Very interesting work, especially regarding PP's shadow.

1) Does this mean Prayer Person wasn't standing awkwardly for thirty seconds or so with one foot on the landing, and the other foot on the top step?

2) If Prayer Person was the farthest person from Darnell's camera, and if Frazier was 6' 1.5" tall, what would you judge PP's height to be closer to --  Sarah Stanton's 5' 4", or Oswald's 5' 9.5"?

-- MWT   ;)
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4175 on: April 27, 2019, 03:44:46 PM »
What nonsense!

Why, Mr Cakebread, when you read the words "Then went outside to watch P. parade", do you feel the need to replace its perfectly plain meaning with a tortured meaning of your own invention?

Listen to what Mr Oswald is telling us through Agent Hosty's notes: I was out front when the President passed.

This all-important claim was suppressed. Why on earth would you not celebrate the fact that it is suppressed no more, instead of throwing illogical assertions at it?

Bizarre  ::)

Listen to what Mr Oswald is telling us through Agent Hosty's notes: I was out front when the President passed.

You're reading Hosty's interpretation  of what he thought Lee said.     If those notes were written by Lee Oswald THEN I might look at it differently.

This may be too simple for you because you seem to enjoy making things complicated.....BUT....Even if Lee did tell the interrogators that he went outside to watch the parade AFTER going to the second floor to buy a Coca Cola and AFTER he met Roy Truly and Marrion Baker there in that second floor lunchroom,and AFTER he returned to the Domino room and AFTER he finished his lunch he THEN went outside to watch the parade not knowing that the pared no longer existed.

You simply are desperately trying to put Lee outside in front of the TSBD as the Parade was passing by and WHILE the shots were being fired.....

Question...WHAT IS THE ONE THING THAT ALL SPECTATORS REPORTED?  ...answer:...    Every last one of the spectators reported hearing gun shots.....Did Lee Oswald EVER say anything about hearing gunshots?     ....Answer ....NO he did not.....  WHY?   Because he was in a place in which the gunshots could not be heard....a place like the second Floor lunchroom ...or the stair well between floors.



Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4176 on: April 27, 2019, 03:49:53 PM »
This may be too simple for you because you seem to enjoy making things complicated.....BUT....Even if Lee did tell the interrogators that he went outside to watch the parade AFTER going to the second floor to buy a Coca Cola and AFTER he met Roy Truly and Marrion Baker there in that second floor lunchroom [...]

The encounter between Mr Oswald and Officer Baker in the second-floor lunchroom just after the assassination never happened, Mr Cakebread!

It was invented on the night of 11/22/63 as a way of taking Mr Oswald away from the front entrance for the shooting.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4177 on: April 27, 2019, 05:13:21 PM »
The encounter between Mr Oswald and Officer Baker in the second-floor lunchroom just after the assassination never happened, Mr Cakebread!

It was invented on the night of 11/22/63 as a way of taking Mr Oswald away from the front entrance for the shooting.

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As I said, Alan....You're FOS!....   The encounter in the second floor lunchroom definitely DID happen...... The affidavit of Baker  that was taken BEFORE 5:00 pm  1/22/63 confirms that Baker saw Lee in the second floor lunchroom about 75 seconds after the shooting....

Alan, I'm losing respect for your opinions.....  You're a good researcher and have discovered some very interesting and revealing information.....But this outrageous idea that Baker and Truly never encountered Lee Oswald in the second floor lunchroom is  simply bizarre .....   If the encounter never happened as you purpose.....Then why the hell would the "investigators" spend so much time and effort to attempt to verify and document that Lee could have traveled from the sixth floor to the lunchroom in a mere 75 seconds????   
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4178 on: April 27, 2019, 08:37:42 PM »
The affidavit of Baker  that was taken BEFORE 5:00 pm  1/22/63 confirms that Baker saw Lee in the second floor lunchroom about 75 seconds after the shooting....

OMG, really? A same-day affidavit from Officer Baker confirming the lunchroom encounter? I didn't know about this... how embarrassing!

What exactly does it say?

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Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4179 on: April 27, 2019, 08:50:36 PM »
OMG, really? A same-day affidavit from Officer Baker confirming the lunchroom encounter? I didn't know about this... how embarrassing!

What exactly does it say?

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I'll be interested to see this as well, Alan.

 

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