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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4150 on: April 19, 2019, 12:10:40 PM »


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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4151 on: April 19, 2019, 12:19:07 PM »
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I don?t care. I?m asking you what your basis is for calling it a woman?s face. And I don?t believe you anyway. If everyone who saw it said it was a woman, then there would be no ?Prayerman is Oswald? people.

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Worth reminding ourselves that Prayer Man was clearly a male to Mr Doyle until the moment he was informed that Mr Lloyd Viles was not on the steps at the time of the motorcade. After that Prayer Man was clearly a female, and anyone who thought differently was a rhymes-with-scroll.

Bottom line: Mr Doyle just can't countenance the idea that this could be Mr Oswald----------it would contradict his dearly held theory that one of the two LHOs in the building was in the lunchroom for the assassination!

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« Reply #4152 on: April 19, 2019, 02:24:13 PM »
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Worth reminding ourselves that Prayer Man was clearly a male to Mr Doyle until the moment he was informed that Mr Lloyd Viles was not on the steps at the time of the motorcade. After that Prayer Man was clearly a female, and anyone who thought differently was a rhymes-with-scroll.

Bottom line: Mr Doyle just can't countenance the idea that this could be Mr Oswald----------it would contradict his dearly held theory that one of the two LHOs in the building was in the lunchroom for the assassination!

"Prayer Man"  appears to be a woman to me.....    It most certainly does NOT look like Lee Oswald.

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4153 on: April 19, 2019, 09:36:35 PM »
How interesting Walt, you now have the unique opportunity to be the first person without an obvious agenda to explain exactly what it is about this person that makes you think it's a woman, something I might add that even LTroller would not do.

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4154 on: April 20, 2019, 01:10:59 AM »
One cannot look at any of the images of Prayer Man and say with any degree of certainty that it is a woman.  There are only two things that we can say for sure. The person is short in stature and the person is wide. Well, with those two things in mind, we can also say that it's not Lee Harvey Oswald. Not that we didn't know that already.

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« Reply #4155 on: April 20, 2019, 05:24:36 AM »
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One cannot look at any of the images of Prayer Man and say with any degree of certainty that it is a woman.  There are only two things that we can say for sure. The person is short in stature and the person is wide. Well, with those two things in mind, we can also say that it's not Lee Harvey Oswald. Not that we didn't know that already.

No, we don?t know that already.

But how can we say for certain that the person is wide? How wide?

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4156 on: April 20, 2019, 02:07:39 PM »
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How interesting Walt, you now have the unique opportunity to be the first person without an obvious agenda to explain exactly what it is about this person that makes you think it's a woman, something I might add that even LTroller would not do.

That's a tough question.... The photo isn't clear enough to be specific....  The image just seems to be a female....and I would say a middle aged female...

The stance seems to be that of a female....and she appears to be wearing a long dark colored rain coat  which falls away from her hands as she holds them up in front of her ( after just taking a picture with the camera in her hand )   

I certainly can't accept the idea that the person is Lee Oswald.....

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4157 on: April 20, 2019, 05:01:14 PM »
Thanks Walt that's a straightforward answer, in the eye of the beholder and all that, that's all I have also, not really something anyone can argue with imo.
Thanks Tim too, all I could request is to take a look at Alan's reversed Darnell frame and tell us you can't imagine PM on the top step.  If he/she was, then the height has to be revised.  The width could be a baggy shirt aaaaaand the face yes, could still be someone else and an amazing waste of time.

I also understand why people think it's Stanton in theory but just not when based mainly on the less than trustworthy visual blow-ups.

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« Reply #4157 on: April 20, 2019, 05:01:14 PM »

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4158 on: April 20, 2019, 05:56:26 PM »
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"Prayer Man"  appears to be a woman to me.....    It most certainly does NOT look like Lee Oswald.
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Mr Cakebread, FYI, I remain convinced that PrayerPersonImage represents a female, and most likely SarahDeanStanton, who was then employed at the TSBD Bldg.

In DarnellFilm, she appears to me to be looking slightly to her right as if responding to GloriaCalveryImage, who has arrived along with two companions, and has announced what she/they had just witnessed.

And, to me PPI has never looked like LeeOswald. ::)
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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #4159 on: April 20, 2019, 06:55:28 PM »
Slender white male, shirt not tucked into pants, sleeves rolled up, with receding dark hair, standing one step down?

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And here-------------to refresh our tired eyes--------------it is horizontally flipped!



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