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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1120 on: February 12, 2019, 09:20:54 AM »
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Yeah, that bit.

Like I said, if you want to see a real zealot, look in the mirror.

Everyone who made statements that conflict with your Prayer Man narrative lied? Several of them under oath? How many were there anyway? Let's make a list , shall we?

1) Marion Baker DPD

2) Roy Truly TSBD forman

3) Jeraldean Reid( AKA Mrs. Robert Reid TSBD employee

4) Will Fritz (DPD) Recorded "I asked Oswald where he was when the Police officer stopped him. He said he was on the second floor drinking a coca cola when the officer came in."

5) James Bookhout (FBI) -  "Oswald stated that on November 22, 1963, at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building by Dalls polie officers, he was on the second floor of said building, having just purchased a Coca Cola from the soft drink machine, at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there. Mr Truly was present and verified that he was an employee"

That's five. Anyone else?

It's not a matter of opinion that all the interrogation reports and related testimonies lied about Mr Oswald's claimed whereabouts. The Hosty note has just proved it.

Add Hosty to the list, by the way. In Assignment Oswald he pretends Mr Oswald claimed to be in the domino room at the time of the P. Parade  ::)

But by all means continue along on your Gullible's Travels, Mr Nickerson! You're giving us a good laugh Thumb1:

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Re: Prayer Woman
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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1121 on: February 12, 2019, 12:54:45 PM »
Answer to 1)!: They suppressed from all reports and testimony the supremely important fact that Mr Oswald had claimed to have gone out to watch the parade.

Answer to 2)!: Don't be silly, Mr Graves. That's only one of several possible postures-------do your homework, man, and read the earlier parts of this thread!  Thumb1:

Dear Alan,

I guess you didn't follow Stancak's highly creative attempts at the EF to create a 3-D model in which Prayer Person could be "proved" to be 5' 9" inches tall, you know, just like that nice young man, Lee Harvey Oswald!

(Who was 5' 9.5", btw, and whose right leg was not three inches longer than his left).

Talk about standing unnaturally and uncomfortably!

Wowie Zowie!

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)
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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1122 on: February 12, 2019, 07:48:43 PM »
Kelley, like Fritz and Bookhout and Hosty, lied.

Ms Arnold told FBI about seeing Mr Oswald in 2nd floor lunchroom before assassination. They changed her story without telling her.
 
Ms Stanton's sighting of Mr Oswald came to light last year: she didn't want trouble, so said nothing at the time.

Ok, here is the list as it currently stands:

Liars ,and and even perjurers , according to Alan Ford

1.  Marion Baker
2.  Roy Truly
3.  Jeraldean Reid (AKA Mrs. Robert Reid)
4.  Will Fritz
5.  James Bookhout
6.  James Hosty
7.  Thomas Kelley
8.  Sarah Stanton
9.  Richard E. Harrison (The FBI agent who interviewed Carolyn Arnold on 11/26/63

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Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1123 on: February 12, 2019, 07:54:33 PM »
Ok, here is the list as it currently stands:

Liars ,and and even perjurers , according to Alan Ford

1.  Marion Baker
2.  Roy Truly
3.  Jeraldean Reid (AKA Mrs. Robert Reid)
4.  Will Fritz
5.  James Bookhout
6.  James Hosty
7.  Thomas Kelley
8.  Sarah Stanton
9.  Richard E. Harrison (The FBI agent who interviewed Carolyn Arnold on 11/26/63

Where did Sarah Stanton lie?

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1124 on: February 12, 2019, 10:43:49 PM »
Dear Alan,

So, you admit that Stancak's modeling was unsuccessful.

Good!

Now, what other postures for 5' 9.5" Oswald do you propose that might "work" better in Stancak's desperate modeling attempt to prove Oswald innocent?

Slouching against the wall in order to reduce his height by five or six inches?

Kneeling?

(LOL)

-- Mudd Wrassler Tommy  :)

Mr Stancak got an awful lot right, and-----------unlike the rather hysterical anti-PrayerMan goons-----------has contributed materially to our understanding of what's in that doorway! Thumb1:

Mr Oswald/Prayer Man: one step down (look at the distance between his left elbow and the front column!). He may be pivoted south-east, have his left knee bent back, allowing his left foot to rest on the landing behind him. Alternatively, he may simply be facing forward with his arms folded. (I am talking about Darnell here, not Wiegman NNB!)

What he is not is an obese woman with white hair wearing a male-pattern-receding wig whilst simultaneously standing by the west wall and standing to Mr Frazier's left!

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1124 on: February 12, 2019, 10:43:49 PM »


Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1125 on: February 12, 2019, 10:55:48 PM »
Ok, here is the list as it currently stands:

Liars ,and and even perjurers , according to Alan Ford

1.  Marion Baker
2.  Roy Truly
3.  Jeraldean Reid (AKA Mrs. Robert Reid)
4.  Will Fritz
5.  James Bookhout
6.  James Hosty
7.  Thomas Kelley
8.  Sarah Stanton
9.  Richard E. Harrison (The FBI agent who interviewed Carolyn Arnold on 11/26/63

Mr Nickerson thinks a cover-up is unthinkable, just unthinkable. That's because Mr Nickerson is a very gullible person.

Incidentally, it was Carolyn Johnson (nee Arnold) who accused the FBI of lying about what she told them. I believe her. And I believe Sarah Stanton.

I also believe that Mr Oswald told Captain Fritz that he 'went outside to watch P. Parade', and that Captain Fritz and co. kept this extremely important fact from the public record for a very good reason, to wit: Mr Oswald's claim was true.
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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1126 on: February 13, 2019, 12:19:37 AM »
Friends! The reason the anti-PrayerMan zealots are so upset is very simple. The revelation a few days ago of this note written by James Hosty-----------



-----------has cruelly deprived them of their very last line of defence.

The matter now comes down to the following:

The person standing by the west wall of a Depository entranceway that is full of Depository employees-----------



-----------is either

A) a Depository employee a) whose location at this time is uniquely unaccounted for; b) who will later claim to have been here; c) who looks strikingly like Prayer Man
or
B) a random person from off the street who is the sole non-Depository employee in that entranceway yet whose presence goes completely unnoticed.

To choose B) over A) would be to choose utter irrationality over plain common sense.

The Lone Nutter zealots will of course do what they always do: go into red-faced denial mode; the carnival barkers who believe in 2 Oswalds, etc. will go into purple-faced denial mode.

But who cares? They have lost the argument. There is now no good argument against Prayer Man's being Mr Oswald, and plenty of excellent arguments for his being Mr Oswald. Even more to the point, there remains no viable alternative candidate for Prayer Man.

An historic week for JFK assassination research!  Thumb1:

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1126 on: February 13, 2019, 12:19:37 AM »


Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1127 on: February 13, 2019, 12:32:51 AM »
As explained by her daughter-in-law and granddaughter, she didn't want to get drawn into the 'investigation'. Can't say I blame her.

How did Ms Arnold and Ms Stanton manage to make a claim that chimes perfectly with something that Mr Oswald claimed in custody------without anyone in the outside world knowing (until a few days ago) that he had made such a claim?

Remarkable fluke!

Mrs Stanton never made that claim.