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« Reply #2610 on: February 11, 2019, 05:38:08 PM »
But hang on! Maybe the P. in 'P. Parade' stands for Post-Assassination or Pandemonium?

Skilled researchers will confirm that 'Post-Assassination Parade' and 'Pandemonium Parade' were far more common expressions in 1963 Dallas than 'Presidential Parade'.

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Silly troll...

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« Reply #2610 on: February 11, 2019, 05:38:08 PM »


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« Reply #2611 on: February 11, 2019, 05:42:16 PM »
Where is eyewitness testimony, including numerous employees at the TexasSchoolBookDepository Building that were on the landing, as well as on the stairs and on the sidewalk/street just in front of the TSBD Bldg entrance stairs/landing, that places accused LoneGunmanAssassin, LeeHarveyOswald(1939-1963), on said landing during the fatal shooting of USP JohnKennedySr (1917-1963) and critical wounding of TxG JohnConnallyJr(1917-1993)?

How could Bldg Superintendent RoyTruly(1907-1985), accompanied by DPD Officer MarrionBaker(1930-2011) have brushed by LeeOswald on the landing without seeing him, especially considering that SuperintendentTruly and OfficerBaker encountered MrOswald on the second floor, at the lunchroom about 60-90 seconds after the shots were fired?

Why claim that LeeOswald was on the landing during the assassination/shooting without any of multiple area occupants' testimony/sworn statements' confirming said presence?

Why claim
that DPD Officer MarrionBaker and Bldg Superintendent RoyTruly did not encounter LeeHarveyOswald at the SecondFloorLunchroom some 60-90 seconds after the shots being fired, despite their testimony/sworn statements' confirming said encounter?
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« Reply #2612 on: February 11, 2019, 05:43:35 PM »
Cheerleading will not get the Prayer Man people past this:

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A few years ago Chris Davidson enhanced the steady frame from the Wiegman film with modern digital photo tech...He got challenged on his metadata by persons who thought he would not be able to produce it...When he produced it and posted it at the Education Forum and proved he did nothing to alter the film and only used simple brightness and contrast adjustments to bring out what the human eye could not see the opposition did not honestly acknowledge it...3 years ago Chris Davidson proved Prayer Man was a woman...The Prayer Man people are pretending that didn't happen but they are fools because they are only digging their own graves as far as credibility once we get the 6th Floor Museum copy that will only prove it more...The Prayer Man people ignore conclusive proof and keep trying to make Prayer Man Oswald no matter what they are shown...Because they are led by Bart Kamp they delude themselves that the Hosty notes are somehow going to make this go away and not apply to them...Their websites ban anyone who dares mention this factual history...

The posters on the Education Forum exist under the deliberate delusion that Debra Conway did not show Buell Frazier my arguments and Buell Frazier did not agree with her that Prayer Man was Sarah Stanton...That is a mentally unhealthy non-reality that the Prayer Man people deliberately conduct in order to only hear what they want to hear and ignore everything else - including Frazier himself...

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« Reply #2613 on: February 11, 2019, 06:19:05 PM »
Quite a great new find. Hosty confirms that Oswald is Prayer Man. Doyle can rant and rave all he wants but it does not change the evidence one bit.

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Where is eyewitness testimony, including numerous employees at the TexasSchoolBookDepository Building that were on the landing, as well as on the stairs and on the sidewalk/street just in front of the TSBD Bldg entrance stairs/landing, that places accused LoneGunmanAssassin, LeeHarveyOswald(1939-1963), on said landing during the fatal shooting of USP JohnKennedySr (1917-1963) and critical wounding of TxG JohnConnallyJr(1917-1993)?

How could Bldg Superintendent RoyTruly(1907-1985), accompanied by DPD Officer MarrionBaker(1930-2011) have brushed by LeeOswald on the landing without seeing him, especially considering that SuperintendentTruly and OfficerBaker encountered MrOswald on the second floor, at the lunchroom about 60-90 seconds after the shots were fired?

Why claim that LeeOswald was on the landing during the assassination/shooting without any of multiple area occupants' testimony/sworn statements' confirming said presence?

Why claim
that DPD Officer MarrionBaker and Bldg Superintendent RoyTruly did not encounter LeeHarveyOswald at the SecondFloorLunchroom some 60-90 seconds after the shots being fired, despite their testimony/sworn statements' confirming said encounter?

Mr Clements, can you provide reliable provable evidence that FBI SA JamesHosty proves/confirms that LeeHarveyOswald is in fact the actual person represented by PrayerPersonImage?
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« Reply #2614 on: February 11, 2019, 07:39:21 PM »
PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: Prayer Man is Oswald.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? Not even Oswald said he went out front!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: There's lots of evidence pointing to the contrary.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? There's no evidence to the contrary!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: What about Harry Holmes's WC testimony, and...

LONE NUTTER: You call that evidence? Ha ha ha. Nothing to see here!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: What if we were to find hard evidence that Oswald said he went out front?

LONE NUTTER: So you admit you have no hard evidence! Ha ha ha. Try harder!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: Actually, we have just uncovered a note written by Agent James Hosty which states that Oswald said he went out front.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? Oswald was a liar!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: But the Hosty note proves that Captain Fritz and co. lied about what he said in custody.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? Oswald was a liar!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: But the Hosty note corroborates Carolyn Arnold and Sarah Stanton's sighting of Oswald in the lunchroom before the assassination.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? There's absolutely no photographic or film evidence of Oswald in the lunchroom before the assassination. Ha ha ha. Try harder!


I tend to wonder, as I do often wander, to whom this Reply is addressed. I tend to assume that "LONE NUTTER" is a reference to those that embrace the LeeHarveyOswald/LoneGunmanAssassinTheory. And, I tend to assume that "PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE" is a reference to those that embrace the LeeHarveyOswald/PrayerManTheory.

For clarification, I have yet to be able to embrace either theory.
However, I do believe that there is reliable indicative information as positive evidence that RoyTruly and MarrionBaker did encounter LeeOswald at the SecondFloorLunchRoom about 60-90 seconds after the shooting/fatal wounding of JohnKennedySr and shooting/critical wounding of JohnConnallyJr.
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« Reply #2615 on: February 11, 2019, 09:17:58 PM »
Friends, one cannot but be impressed at the fact that, when the Prayer Man theory was developed over 5 years ago, a bold double inference was made from the available evidence that Mr Oswald had claimed in custody
A) to have gone to the 2nd floor lunchroom for a coke before (not after) the motorcade
B) to have gone out front for the motorcade.

And now we get this stunning confirmation, in the clearest language possible, of that bold double inference:



Tsk tsk. A terrible, terrible week for the anti-Prayer Man zealots  :'(



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« Reply #2616 on: February 11, 2019, 09:40:33 PM »
Alan is not telling the truth...Hosty's notes are clearly in less precise language than Bookhout and Fritz who include more details than Hosty...Bookhout and Fritz include the details of Baker's lunch room encounter with Oswald as well as the mention of Shelley...Alan is not telling the truth and is describing the situation backwards which is typical of Kamp and his followers...And Alan ignores the incriminating reason why Hosty is less precise...

If Alan had more fidelity to credible analysis he would realize Hosty's omitting Baker from the lunchroom encounter is a sign of its real-ness because Hosty is trying to avoid committing himself to a definite time that places Oswald in the lunch room...Hosty knows if he mentions Baker and the timing of the lunch room encounter he'll lock himself in to a time that places Oswald too close to the lunch room at the time of the shots, so he avoids mentioning it...Counter to what Alan contends Hosty is much less clear and the reason so is highly incriminating and backs our evidence...

Once you realize Hosty is avoiding telling when Oswald went for that Coke then you realize he is trying not to make people aware that it was before the shots, as even Alan admits...The question then arises of when Oswald went up for that Coke and it becomes clear it was well before the shooting and that he was in the lunch room from 12:25 when Carolyn Arnold saw him to 12:31 when Baker & Truly confronted him...

Alan is trying to avoid the obvious that ALL accounts of Fritz's interview start at the lunch room encounter...Counter to what Alan assures us, Hosty is actually the least clear and Bookhout and Fritz both provide the detail of Baker and the timing of the lunch room encounter...

Once you acknowledge that the sequence seen in Hosty's notes has the lunch room encounter as its starting point then the "Went outside to watch the presidential parade" is definitely over 3 minutes after the period of the Darnell Prayer Man image and can't possibly be used as evidence for Oswald being outside at the time of the shots...

The Prayer Man people just ignore Hosty in his book where he details Oswald saying he was in the 1st floor lunch room during the shots...This is the worst sort of dishonest cherry-picking designed to make the evidence say what they want to hear no matter how badly they mangle context...

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« Reply #2616 on: February 11, 2019, 09:40:33 PM »


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« Reply #2617 on: February 11, 2019, 09:42:32 PM »
Friends, one cannot but be impressed at the fact that, when the Prayer Man theory was developed over 5 years ago, a bold double inference was made from the available evidence that Mr Oswald had claimed in custody
A) to have gone to the 2nd floor lunchroom for a coke before (not after) the motorcade
B) to have gone out front for the motorcade.

And now we get this stunning confirmation, in the clearest language possible, of that bold double inference:



Tsk tsk. A terrible, terrible week for the anti-Prayer Man zealots  :'(

Alan,

Prayer Man advocates discount the sworn testimonies of Marion Baker, Roy Truly and Jeraldean Reid. They have three or four others committing perjury as well. Methinks your use of "zealots" is misdirected. If you want to see a real zealot, look in the mirror.

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« Reply #2618 on: February 11, 2019, 09:46:25 PM »
Quite a great new find. Hosty confirms that Oswald is Prayer Man.

How so? 

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« Reply #2619 on: February 11, 2019, 09:47:58 PM »
Alan,

Prayer Man advocates discount the sworn testimonies of Marion Baker, Roy Truly and Jeraldean Reid. They have three or four others committing perjury as well. Methinks your use of "zealots" is misdirected. If you want to see a real zealot, look in the mirror.

Hello Mr Nickerson!

Do you accept that Mr Oswald did in fact claim to have
A) visited the 2nd floor lunchroom before the motorcade
B) gone out front to watch the motorcade?

If not, how do you explain this from Agent Hosty?



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« Reply #2619 on: February 11, 2019, 09:47:58 PM »