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« Reply #2540 on: February 11, 2019, 04:17:25 PM »
Obviously some people are bullet heads and there is no point posting because no matter how much evidence you post they ignore it and stick to their own uncredible thoughts...It is highly damaging to the CT side to have a large percentage of members who have no analysis skills and simply grab on to a theory because it sounds good...These people like the idea of Oswald being out front so they stick to it and ignore all evidence that shows otherwise...

A few years ago Chris Davidson enhanced the steady frame from the Wiegman film with modern digital photo tech...He got challenged on his metadata by persons who thought he would not be able to produce it...When he produced it and posted it at the Education Forum and proved he did nothing to alter the film and only used simple brightness and contrast adjustments to bring out what the human eye could not see the opposition did not honestly acknowledge it...3 years ago Chris Davidson proved Prayer Man was a woman...The Prayer Man people are pretending that didn't happen but they are fools because they are only digging their own graves as far as credibility once we get the 6th Floor Museum copy that will only prove it more...The Prayer Man people ignore conclusive proof and keep trying to make Prayer Man Oswald no matter what they are shown...Because they are led by Bart Kamp they delude themselves that the Hosty notes are somehow going to make this go away and not apply to them...Their websites ban anyone who dares mention this factual history...

The posters on the Education Forum exist under the deliberate delusion that Debra Conway did not show Buell Frazier my arguments and Buell Frazier did not agree with her that Prayer Man was Sarah Stanton...That is a mentally unhealthy non-reality that the Prayer Man people deliberately conduct in order to only hear what they want to hear and ignore everything else - including Frazier himself...

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« Reply #2541 on: February 11, 2019, 04:18:29 PM »
Alan Ford will not answer why, if Hosty is the better source, does he not mention Shelley like Bookhout and Fritz do?

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« Reply #2542 on: February 11, 2019, 04:26:26 PM »
PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: Prayer Man is Oswald.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? Not even Oswald said he went out front!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: There's lots of evidence pointing to the contrary.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? There's no evidence to the contrary!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: What about Harry Holmes's WC testimony, and...

LONE NUTTER: You call that evidence? Ha ha ha. Nothing to see here!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: What if we were to find hard evidence that Oswald said he went out front?

LONE NUTTER: So you admit you have no hard evidence! Ha ha ha. Try harder!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: Actually, we have just uncovered a note written by Agent James Hosty which states that Oswald said he went out front.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? Oswald was a liar!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: But the Hosty note proves that Captain Fritz and co. lied about what he said in custody.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? Oswald was a liar!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: But the Hosty note corroborates Carolyn Arnold and Sarah Stanton's sighting of Oswald in the lunchroom before the assassination.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? There's absolutely no photographic or film evidence of Oswald in the lunchroom before the assassination. Ha ha ha. Try harder!

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« Reply #2542 on: February 11, 2019, 04:26:26 PM »

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« Reply #2543 on: February 11, 2019, 04:54:02 PM »
Alan literally cannot answer the factual counter arguments to Bart Kamp's latest offering of pure contrived dishonesty...The bottom line is Hosty is translating the exact same interview that Bookhout and Fritz are witnessing...The Prayer Man people like to make Fritz a liar who fabricated his notes days later but the truth is he was the one formulating the questions and getting the answers...He was in charge of the conversation and was talking to Oswald right in front of him...His notes are just as accurate as Hosty's or Bookhouts and mirror them exactly because all 3 are observing the same conversation...

The Prayer Man people will not answer the point that Hosty's notes reflect the chronology that is established in Bookhout's and Fritz's notes...Kamp is a liar so he is trying to blurr this fact so he can remove context from the formula and sell Hosty's last line "Then went outside to watch P. parade" as meaning Oswald was Prayer Man during Darnell...Kamp doesn't want you to use your intelligence and notice that Hosty writes "Then"...The context of "Then" is that Hosty means it is happening after the Coke in 2nd floor lunch room and going down to the 1st floor...All one has to do is look at Bookhout's and Fritz's notes to realize the same event that all 3 witnessed starts with Baker confronting Oswald in the lunch room...This is 70 to 90 seconds after the shots...Oswald going down to the 1st floor is therefore after that and around 2 to 3 minutes after the shots...Since all 3 witnesses (Bookhout, Fritz, and Hosty) have Oswald going outside after the first floor that conclusively means Oswald did not go outside until 3 minutes or more after the last shots...This is far too long after the Darnell Prayer Man image to be evidence of Oswald being Prayer Man...Kamp and Ford know this which is why they refuse to give a straight answer to it...They continue to have zero respect for the public or the reader and willfully sell a story they know is false in their desperation not to conceded on the real Prayer Man evidence...

Ford won't give a straight answer to why Hosty doesn't mention Shelley while Fritz and Bookhout do if Hosty is the better source?   

The trolls think they have a right to ignore all this...

The trick the Prayer Man cultists are using is hijacking the cops not wanting to exonerate Oswald by precisely detailing the 2nd floor lunch room encounter...The reality is that Baker and the other cops did not want to aid in exonerating Oswald by giving too much detail on his being in the 2nd floor lunch room...It is true that the lunch room encounter wasn't formulated by the time of Fritz's interview - but not for the reason the Prayer Man fantasists are wishing...By banning anyone who posts the opposite the Prayer Man cult have managed to hijack conspiracy forums and censor those who have a more healthy grip on reality...The Prayer Man people are forcing the only version to be the cops fabricating a lunch room encounter that never happened by hijacking all outlets...The truth is the preliminary information was loose because the cops were deciding whether or not to reveal Oswald being in the place he was during the shots...That place was, of course, the 2nd floor lunch room and that is why the cops dragged their feet on revealing it...These Prayer Man cultists are the Lone Nutters' best friend because they are destroying the CT community's credibility from within...
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« Reply #2544 on: February 11, 2019, 05:19:33 PM »
The Hosty note that is breaking hearts...



But hang on! Maybe the P. in 'P. Parade' stands for Post-Assassination or Pandemonium?

Skilled researchers will confirm that 'Post-Assassination Parade' and 'Pandemonium Parade' were far more common expressions in 1963 Dallas than 'Presidential Parade'.

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« Reply #2544 on: February 11, 2019, 05:19:33 PM »

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« Reply #2545 on: February 11, 2019, 05:37:07 PM »
Alan is cheerleading but he shows in public that he can't answer the real proof...

No attempt to answer the true chronology or fact Hosty omitted Baker and Shelley from his notes when Bookhout and Fritz included both of them and recognized the chronology of what they were describing (all well after the lunch room encounter)...

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« Reply #2546 on: February 11, 2019, 05:38:08 PM »
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But hang on! Maybe the P. in 'P. Parade' stands for Post-Assassination or Pandemonium?

Skilled researchers will confirm that 'Post-Assassination Parade' and 'Pandemonium Parade' were far more common expressions in 1963 Dallas than 'Presidential Parade'.

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Silly troll...

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« Reply #2547 on: February 11, 2019, 05:42:16 PM »
Where is eyewitness testimony, including numerous employees at the TexasSchoolBookDepository Building that were on the landing, as well as on the stairs and on the sidewalk/street just in front of the TSBD Bldg entrance stairs/landing, that places accused LoneGunmanAssassin, LeeHarveyOswald(1939-1963), on said landing during the fatal shooting of USP JohnKennedySr (1917-1963) and critical wounding of TxG JohnConnallyJr(1917-1993)?

How could Bldg Superintendent RoyTruly(1907-1985), accompanied by DPD Officer MarrionBaker(1930-2011) have brushed by LeeOswald on the landing without seeing him, especially considering that SuperintendentTruly and OfficerBaker encountered MrOswald on the second floor, at the lunchroom about 60-90 seconds after the shots were fired?

Why claim that LeeOswald was on the landing during the assassination/shooting without any of multiple area occupants' testimony/sworn statements' confirming said presence?

Why claim
that DPD Officer MarrionBaker and Bldg Superintendent RoyTruly did not encounter LeeHarveyOswald at the SecondFloorLunchroom some 60-90 seconds after the shots being fired, despite their testimony/sworn statements' confirming said encounter?
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« Reply #2548 on: February 11, 2019, 05:43:35 PM »
Cheerleading will not get the Prayer Man people past this:

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A few years ago Chris Davidson enhanced the steady frame from the Wiegman film with modern digital photo tech...He got challenged on his metadata by persons who thought he would not be able to produce it...When he produced it and posted it at the Education Forum and proved he did nothing to alter the film and only used simple brightness and contrast adjustments to bring out what the human eye could not see the opposition did not honestly acknowledge it...3 years ago Chris Davidson proved Prayer Man was a woman...The Prayer Man people are pretending that didn't happen but they are fools because they are only digging their own graves as far as credibility once we get the 6th Floor Museum copy that will only prove it more...The Prayer Man people ignore conclusive proof and keep trying to make Prayer Man Oswald no matter what they are shown...Because they are led by Bart Kamp they delude themselves that the Hosty notes are somehow going to make this go away and not apply to them...Their websites ban anyone who dares mention this factual history...

The posters on the Education Forum exist under the deliberate delusion that Debra Conway did not show Buell Frazier my arguments and Buell Frazier did not agree with her that Prayer Man was Sarah Stanton...That is a mentally unhealthy non-reality that the Prayer Man people deliberately conduct in order to only hear what they want to hear and ignore everything else - including Frazier himself...

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« Reply #2549 on: February 11, 2019, 06:19:05 PM »
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Quite a great new find. Hosty confirms that Oswald is Prayer Man. Doyle can rant and rave all he wants but it does not change the evidence one bit.

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Where is eyewitness testimony, including numerous employees at the TexasSchoolBookDepository Building that were on the landing, as well as on the stairs and on the sidewalk/street just in front of the TSBD Bldg entrance stairs/landing, that places accused LoneGunmanAssassin, LeeHarveyOswald(1939-1963), on said landing during the fatal shooting of USP JohnKennedySr (1917-1963) and critical wounding of TxG JohnConnallyJr(1917-1993)?

How could Bldg Superintendent RoyTruly(1907-1985), accompanied by DPD Officer MarrionBaker(1930-2011) have brushed by LeeOswald on the landing without seeing him, especially considering that SuperintendentTruly and OfficerBaker encountered MrOswald on the second floor, at the lunchroom about 60-90 seconds after the shots were fired?

Why claim that LeeOswald was on the landing during the assassination/shooting without any of multiple area occupants' testimony/sworn statements' confirming said presence?

Why claim
that DPD Officer MarrionBaker and Bldg Superintendent RoyTruly did not encounter LeeHarveyOswald at the SecondFloorLunchroom some 60-90 seconds after the shots being fired, despite their testimony/sworn statements' confirming said encounter?

Mr Clements, can you provide reliable provable evidence that FBI SA JamesHosty proves/confirms that LeeHarveyOswald is in fact the actual person represented by PrayerPersonImage?
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