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Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1090 on: February 05, 2019, 08:28:17 PM »


This is a blow up of the frame from the Hughes film.



Can anybody truthfully say this is Lovelady?

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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1091 on: February 07, 2019, 05:05:44 PM »
Yes, it's always everybody else's fault for not acknowledging your brilliance.

Face it, you are unwelcome everywhere you go.

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1092 on: February 07, 2019, 07:26:04 PM »
What substance?  It's just yet another one of your usual "I am the way, the truth, and the light, and everyone else is just jealous of my genius" meltdowns that you have on a regular basis.  At least until you get banned from yet another forum for behaving like an ass.

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1093 on: February 11, 2019, 01:04:12 AM »
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This is pretty convincing. I had my doubts about the film showing LHO or someone else. But this is now the second independent corroboration of what LHO told them when he was interviewed. Hosty and Fritz would have had to go into a room and compare notes to get the story straight and I just can't visualize them doing that. They both heard what he said and wrote it down independently.

What I'm amazed at though is have these Hosty notes never been seen as Kamp says? This case has been churned a million times and I find it hard to believe the notes were just revealed 55 years after the fact.

EDIT - this forum won't let me post an external link so the link I tried to post is Kamp's PM site showing the Hosty notes.
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1094 on: February 11, 2019, 03:20:15 AM »
Looks like it's all over, folks. The newly uncovered James Hosty note----------written on the back of a DPD affidavit paper----------confirms exactly what the LHO=PrayerMan people have been saying all along:

O[swald] stated he was present for work at TBD on the morning of 11/22 and at noon went to lunch. He went to 2nd floor to get Coca Cola to eat with lunch and returned to 1st floor to eat lunch. Then went outside to watch P[residential] Parade.

Mr Oswald is Prayer Man.

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1095 on: February 11, 2019, 03:44:35 AM »
Looks like it's all over, folks. The newly uncovered James Hosty note----------written on the back of a DPD affidavit paper----------confirms exactly what the LHO=PrayerMan people have been saying all along:

O[swald] stated he was present for work at TBD on the morning of 11/22 and at noon went to lunch. He went to 2nd floor to get Coca Cola to eat with lunch and returned to 1st floor to eat lunch. Then went outside to watch P[residential] Parade.

Mr Oswald is Prayer Man.

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Then what was Oswald sitting on? Could it have been a wooden stool from the front storage room by the front staircase that Oswald brought out with him, about what, 12:28pm? He only had to open the front glass door which is hinged on the left side, as you see it from inside the lobby, about maybe a 1.5 ft, so the swing of the door would not even have touched BW.Frazier who at least 3 ft in front of the door if he is by the top part of the handrail.


Therefore its possible Oswald could have "sat" partially on this stool, and that is why he is appears 5'3
" in height, in relation to the 6'1" BW Frazier?


Would anyone have noticed Oswald going back into thru the front door, with stool in hand, and returning it to the front storage room by the front stairs?


Did Baker and Truly actually 1st see Oswald just after Oswald comes out of the storage room from having returned the stool?


Is there any actual proof of this hypothetical or is it a waste of time?
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1096 on: February 11, 2019, 04:49:19 AM »
Looks like it's all over, folks. The newly uncovered James Hosty note----------written on the back of a DPD affidavit paper----------confirms exactly what the LHO=PrayerMan people have been saying all along:

O[swald] stated he was present for work at TBD on the morning of 11/22 and at noon went to lunch. He went to 2nd floor to get Coca Cola to eat with lunch and returned to 1st floor to eat lunch. Then went outside to watch P[residential] Parade.

Mr Oswald is Prayer Man.

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Friends! Anyone who has been following this issue without bias will understand the scale of the breakthrough that James Hosty's note represents. It proves beyond any question that the interrogation report filed under the sole name of James W. Bookhout was a despicable lie. This report deprived Mr Oswald of his alibi by distorting completely what he had been telling Captain Fritz in custody.

Here's the first interrogation report to which Bookhout put his name. It's a joint report written with James Hosty:

Oswald stated that he went to lunch at approximately noon and claimed he ate his lunch on the first floor in the lunch room; however he went to the  second floor where the coca cola machine is located and obtained a bottle of coca cola for his lunch. Oswald claimed to be on the first floor when President John F. Kennedy passed the building.

Here's the Hosty note that has just come to light:

O[swald] stated he was present for work at TBD on the morning of 11/22 and at noon went to lunch. He went to 2nd floor to get Coca Cola to eat with lunch and returned to 1st floor to eat lunch. Then went outside to watch P[residential] Parade.

Now! The thing to note about both of the above is that they are saying the same thing. But with this teeny weeny difference: the Hosty note lays it all out plain and simple, whereas the joint Bookhout/Hosty report uses weasel words to create some ambiguity.

Now!! Just take a look at what happens to Mr Oswald's reported words in the subsequent Bookhout-alone report. It's quite something...

Oswald stated that on November 22, 1963, at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building by Dallas police officers, he was on the second floor of said building, having just purchased a Coca-cola form the soft-drink machine, at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there. Mr. Truly was present and verified that he was an employee and the police officer thereafter left the room and continued through the building. Oswald stated that he took this Coke down to the first floor and stood around and had lunch in the employee?s lunch room. He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman Bill Shelly.

This report was written to hide some simple facts, viz.--------------
1. Mr Oswald visited the second-floor lunchroom before the assassination (Ms Carolyn Arnold and Ms Sarah Stanton are 100% vindicated!)
2. Mr Oswald took his Coca Cola down to the first floor and went out front to watch the parade
3. There was no second-floor lunchroom encounter with Officer Baker and Mr Truly.

The mantra of the Anyone-But-LHO-As-Prayer-Person crowd-----------
Oh but that's crazy, Oswald himself never claimed to have gone out to see the President!
-----------can no longer be taken seriously by any self-respecting researcher.

Mr Oswald is Prayer Man.  Thumb1:


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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1097 on: February 11, 2019, 05:00:26 AM »
As I've already stated, no self-respecting researcher will deny the bombshell importance of these words from James Hosty:

O[swald] stated he was present for work at TBD on the morning of 11/22 and at noon went to lunch. He went to 2nd floor to get Coca Cola to eat with lunch and returned to 1st floor to eat lunch. Then went outside to watch P[residential] Parade.


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« Last Edit: February 11, 2019, 05:01:12 AM by Alan Ford »

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1098 on: February 11, 2019, 06:16:33 AM »
Friends! Anyone who has been following this issue without bias will understand the scale of the breakthrough that James Hosty's note represents. It proves beyond any question that the interrogation report filed under the sole name of James W. Bookhout was a despicable lie. This report deprived Mr Oswald of his alibi by distorting completely what he had been telling Captain Fritz in custody.

Here's the first interrogation report to which Bookhout put his name. It's a joint report written with James Hosty:

Oswald stated that he went to lunch at approximately noon and claimed he ate his lunch on the first floor in the lunch room; however he went to the  second floor where the coca cola machine is located and obtained a bottle of coca cola for his lunch. Oswald claimed to be on the first floor when President John F. Kennedy passed the building.

Here's the Hosty note that has just come to light:

O[swald] stated he was present for work at TBD on the morning of 11/22 and at noon went to lunch. He went to 2nd floor to get Coca Cola to eat with lunch and returned to 1st floor to eat lunch. Then went outside to watch P[residential] Parade.

Now! The thing to note about both of the above is that they are saying the same thing. But with this teeny weeny difference: the Hosty note lays it all out plain and simple, whereas the joint Bookhout/Hosty report uses weasel words to create some ambiguity.

Now!! Just take a look at what happens to Mr Oswald's reported words in the subsequent Bookhout-alone report. It's quite something...

Oswald stated that on November 22, 1963, at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building by Dallas police officers, he was on the second floor of said building, having just purchased a Coca-cola form the soft-drink machine, at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there. Mr. Truly was present and verified that he was an employee and the police officer thereafter left the room and continued through the building. Oswald stated that he took this Coke down to the first floor and stood around and had lunch in the employee?s lunch room. He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman Bill Shelly.

This report was written to hide some simple facts, viz.--------------
1. Mr Oswald visited the second-floor lunchroom before the assassination (Ms Carolyn Arnold and Ms Sarah Stanton are 100% vindicated!)
2. Mr Oswald took his Coca Cola down to the first floor and went out front to watch the parade
3. There was no second-floor lunchroom encounter with Officer Baker and Mr Truly.

The mantra of the Anyone-But-LHO-As-Prayer-Person crowd-----------
Oh but that's crazy, Oswald himself never claimed to have gone out to see the President!
-----------can no longer be taken seriously by any self-respecting researcher.

Mr Oswald is Prayer Man.  Thumb1:

There has always been a great oddity contained in the original Hosty/Bookhout interrogation report:

"Oswald claimed to be on the first floor when President John F. Kennedy passed the building."

Sheesh, guys, maybe you could give us some idea of, like, where exactly on the first damn floor he's claiming to have been. Cos, ya know, he is the prime suspect in the assassination and all! Is a bit of detail too much to ask for?

The newly discovered (by Mr. Bart Kamp) handwritten note from James Hosty both gives us the detail we were looking for, and explains why there was no way in hell it was ever going to find its way into an official printed report:

"Then went outside to watch P[residential] Parade."

The game's well and truly up now. Only fools and knaves will continue to cling on to the discredited lunchroom encounter garbage and its attendant idiocies. And only fools and knaves will continue to deny the significance of the figure standing on the west side of the doorway in the Wiegman and Darnell films. It's none other than Mr Oswald.

The arc of the moral universe may be long, friends, but it really does bend toward justice.

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #1099 on: February 11, 2019, 04:26:26 PM »
PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: Prayer Man is Oswald.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? Not even Oswald said he went out front!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: There's lots of evidence pointing to the contrary.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? There's no evidence to the contrary!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: What about Harry Holmes's WC testimony, and...

LONE NUTTER: You call that evidence? Ha ha ha. Nothing to see here!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: What if we were to find hard evidence that Oswald said he went out front?

LONE NUTTER: So you admit you have no hard evidence! Ha ha ha. Try harder!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: Actually, we have just uncovered a note written by Agent James Hosty which states that Oswald said he went out front.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? Oswald was a liar!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: But the Hosty note proves that Captain Fritz and co. lied about what he said in custody.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? Oswald was a liar!

PRAYER-MAN-IS-OSWALD ADVOCATE: But the Hosty note corroborates Carolyn Arnold and Sarah Stanton's sighting of Oswald in the lunchroom before the assassination.

LONE NUTTER: Are you nuts? There's absolutely no photographic or film evidence of Oswald in the lunchroom before the assassination. Ha ha ha. Try harder!

 

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