Prayer Woman

[Alan Ford]

Looks like it's all over, folks. The newly uncovered James Hosty note----------written on the back of a DPD affidavit paper----------confirms exactly what the LHO=PrayerMan people have been saying all along:

O[swald] stated he was present for work at TBD on the morning of 11/22 and at noon went to lunch. He went to 2nd floor to get Coca Cola to eat with lunch and returned to 1st floor to eat lunch. Then went outside to watch P[residential] Parade.

Mr Oswald is Prayer Man.

 

[Zeon Mason]

Looks like it's all over, folks. The newly uncovered James Hosty note----------written on the back of a DPD affidavit paper----------confirms exactly what the LHO=PrayerMan people have been saying all along:

O[swald] stated he was present for work at TBD on the morning of 11/22 and at noon went to lunch. He went to 2nd floor to get Coca Cola to eat with lunch and returned to 1st floor to eat lunch. Then went outside to watch P[residential] Parade.

Mr Oswald is Prayer Man.

 

Then what was Oswald sitting on? Could it have been a wooden stool from the front storage room by the front staircase that Oswald brought out with him, about what, 12:28pm? He only had to open the front glass door which is hinged on the left side, as you see it from inside the lobby, about maybe a 1.5 ft, so the swing of the door would not even have touched BW.Frazier who at least 3 ft in front of the door if he is by the top part of the handrail.


Therefore its possible Oswald could have "sat" partially on this stool, and that is why he is appears 5'3
" in height, in relation to the 6'1" BW Frazier?


Would anyone have noticed Oswald going back into thru the front door, with stool in hand, and returning it to the front storage room by the front stairs?


Did Baker and Truly actually 1st see Oswald just after Oswald comes out of the storage room from having returned the stool?


Is there any actual proof of this hypothetical or is it a waste of time?

[Alan Ford]

Looks like it's all over, folks. The newly uncovered James Hosty note----------written on the back of a DPD affidavit paper----------confirms exactly what the LHO=PrayerMan people have been saying all along:

O[swald] stated he was present for work at TBD on the morning of 11/22 and at noon went to lunch. He went to 2nd floor to get Coca Cola to eat with lunch and returned to 1st floor to eat lunch. Then went outside to watch P[residential] Parade.

Mr Oswald is Prayer Man.

 

Friends! Anyone who has been following this issue without bias will understand the scale of the breakthrough that James Hosty's note represents. It proves beyond any question that the interrogation report filed under the sole name of James W. Bookhout was a despicable lie. This report deprived Mr Oswald of his alibi by distorting completely what he had been telling Captain Fritz in custody.

Here's the first interrogation report to which Bookhout put his name. It's a joint report written with James Hosty:

Oswald stated that he went to lunch at approximately noon and claimed he ate his lunch on the first floor in the lunch room; however he went to the  second floor where the coca cola machine is located and obtained a bottle of coca cola for his lunch. Oswald claimed to be on the first floor when President John F. Kennedy passed the building.

Here's the Hosty note that has just come to light:

O[swald] stated he was present for work at TBD on the morning of 11/22 and at noon went to lunch. He went to 2nd floor to get Coca Cola to eat with lunch and returned to 1st floor to eat lunch. Then went outside to watch P[residential] Parade.

Now! The thing to note about both of the above is that they are saying the same thing. But with this teeny weeny difference: the Hosty note lays it all out plain and simple, whereas the joint Bookhout/Hosty report uses weasel words to create some ambiguity.

Now!! Just take a look at what happens to Mr Oswald's reported words in the subsequent Bookhout-alone report. It's quite something...

Oswald stated that on November 22, 1963, at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building by Dallas police officers, he was on the second floor of said building, having just purchased a Coca-cola form the soft-drink machine, at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there. Mr. Truly was present and verified that he was an employee and the police officer thereafter left the room and continued through the building. Oswald stated that he took this Coke down to the first floor and stood around and had lunch in the employee?s lunch room. He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman Bill Shelly.

This report was written to hide some simple facts, viz.--------------
1. Mr Oswald visited the second-floor lunchroom before the assassination (Ms Carolyn Arnold and Ms Sarah Stanton are 100% vindicated!)
2. Mr Oswald took his Coca Cola down to the first floor and went out front to watch the parade
3. There was no second-floor lunchroom encounter with Officer Baker and Mr Truly.

The mantra of the Anyone-But-LHO-As-Prayer-Person crowd-----------
Oh but that's crazy, Oswald himself never claimed to have gone out to see the President!
-----------can no longer be taken seriously by any self-respecting researcher.

Mr Oswald is Prayer Man. 

[Brian Doyle]

Looks like it's all over, folks. The newly uncovered James Hosty note----------written on the back of a DPD affidavit paper----------confirms exactly what the LHO=PrayerMan people have been saying all along:

O[swald] stated he was present for work at TBD on the morning of 11/22 and at noon went to lunch. He went to 2nd floor to get Coca Cola to eat with lunch and returned to 1st floor to eat lunch. Then went outside to watch P[residential] Parade.

Mr Oswald is Prayer Man.

That's a false interpretation of what Hosty's notes are saying...Hosty is observing an interview of Oswald by Fritz...If you look at the Bookhout report and Fritz's notes both of those recordings are of the same event Hosty is covering...Both Bookhout and Fritz give identical descriptions of Baker's confrontation of Oswald in the 2nd floor lunch room as their opening item...What this does is establish that the description's chronological order starts at the lunch room encounter...Because both Bookhout and Fritz describe a Coke and the location being the 2nd floor lunch room this proves that Hosty covers this same event by saying "He went to 2nd floor to get a Coca Cola to eat with lunch"...Remember, Hosty is describing the same interview as Bookhout and Fritz...

Next, both Bookhout and Fritz describe Oswald going down to the 1st floor after the encounter...Bookhout writes "Oswald stated that he took this Coke down to the first floor and stood around and had lunch in the employees lunch room"...Fritz covers it by saying "To 1st floor had lunch""...And Hosty says "And returned to 1st floor to eat lunch"...

Finally Bookhout finishes by saying "He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman Bill Shelley"...Fritz writes: "Out with Bill Shelley in front"...And Hosty changes it to "Then went outside to watch presidential parade"...

It is clear that these men are describing the same things not only because they obviously match up so well but also because all three are observing the same event...Any researcher worth his salt who isn't trying to force Prayer Man to be Oswald would agree that all three descriptions have the lunch room encounter as their starting point...What that means is we have a chronological marker that establishes the timing of the events to have started at the lunch room encounter 90 seconds after the last shot...

We can therefore assume that the mention of Oswald going from there to the 1st floor happens after the lunch room encounter...

And we can equally assume that Oswald's going out with Shelley on the front steps happens after the visit to the Domino Room...

So what we have established here is that by Oswald's descriptions in his interrogation by Fritz we can safely assume any departure from the Depository happened at least 3 minutes or more after the scene in which Prayer Man can be seen in the Darnell film...

It is clear that Hosty, probably for reasons of concealing Shelley's Intel status and facility to Oswald's departure out the rear exit, decided not to include the clearly spelled-out detail of Shelley being outside with Oswald that was told of by both Bookhout and Fritz...

The Prayer Man people hope people don't notice that the man who they are deliberately misquoting failed to mention Shelley being out front like Bookhout and Fritz...They urge us to believe a clearly misrepresented, out of context quote from Hosty but then ignore that Hosty fails to mention their previous claim to fame that Oswald went "out with Shelley in front"...Pretty strange considering all three men were witnessing the same event and two of them managed to include this mention... 

The Prayer Man group wants you to ignore Carolyn Arnold who saw Oswald in that same 2nd floor lunch room at 12:25...For Hosty to be correct, according to their version, Oswald would have to go from Carolyn Arnold's sighting in the 2nd floor lunch room down to the Domino Room, and then back up to the 2nd floor lunch room to get the Coke, and then back down to the 1st floor, and then back up to the 2nd floor lunch room for the encounter with Baker... Sarah Stanton saw Oswald with a Coke so that is the first Coke...If Oswald went back from the Domino Room to the 2nd floor lunch room after that then that would be the second Coke in 5 minutes...

[Alan Ford]

As I've already stated, no self-respecting researcher will deny the bombshell importance of these words from James Hosty:

O[swald] stated he was present for work at TBD on the morning of 11/22 and at noon went to lunch. He went to 2nd floor to get Coca Cola to eat with lunch and returned to 1st floor to eat lunch. Then went outside to watch P[residential] Parade.

 

[Brian Doyle]

Friends! Anyone who has been following this issue without bias will understand the scale of the breakthrough that James Hosty's note represents. It proves beyond any question that the interrogation report filed under the sole name of James W. Bookhout was a despicable lie. This report deprived Mr Oswald of his alibi by distorting completely what he had been telling Captain Fritz in custody.

Actually if you go to the Bookhout, Fritz, and Hosty descriptions they are all noticeably similar...All three start at the lunch room encounter in the 2nd floor lunch room and mention a Coke...All three then describe Oswald saying he went downstairs to the 1st floor...And all three then have Oswald going outside...

The only reason Hosty is different than Bookhout and Fritz is because he is omitting the detail of the lunch room encounter because he knows it leads to knowledge of Oswald being in the lunch room during the shots...Hosty also omits mention of Shelley because he is avoiding drawing curiosity over his doings...Hosty is aware Shelley is an Intel insider who helped Oswald out the rear exit so he drops mention of him in order not to draw attention to him and his real doings...

Alan makes a false statement...Bookhout did not deny what Oswald told Fritz and if you look at Bookhout's report he identically repeats Oswald's claim that he went out front with Bill Shelley...It is Hosty who fails to mention this even though they are observing the same interview...

Sorry Alan but that is dishonestly oversimplified...You won't get away with it for the reasons I posted and you foolishly ignored...

[Alan Ford]

Friends! Anyone who has been following this issue without bias will understand the scale of the breakthrough that James Hosty's note represents. It proves beyond any question that the interrogation report filed under the sole name of James W. Bookhout was a despicable lie. This report deprived Mr Oswald of his alibi by distorting completely what he had been telling Captain Fritz in custody.

Here's the first interrogation report to which Bookhout put his name. It's a joint report written with James Hosty:

Oswald stated that he went to lunch at approximately noon and claimed he ate his lunch on the first floor in the lunch room; however he went to the  second floor where the coca cola machine is located and obtained a bottle of coca cola for his lunch. Oswald claimed to be on the first floor when President John F. Kennedy passed the building.

Here's the Hosty note that has just come to light:

O[swald] stated he was present for work at TBD on the morning of 11/22 and at noon went to lunch. He went to 2nd floor to get Coca Cola to eat with lunch and returned to 1st floor to eat lunch. Then went outside to watch P[residential] Parade.

Now! The thing to note about both of the above is that they are saying the same thing. But with this teeny weeny difference: the Hosty note lays it all out plain and simple, whereas the joint Bookhout/Hosty report uses weasel words to create some ambiguity.

Now!! Just take a look at what happens to Mr Oswald's reported words in the subsequent Bookhout-alone report. It's quite something...

Oswald stated that on November 22, 1963, at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building by Dallas police officers, he was on the second floor of said building, having just purchased a Coca-cola form the soft-drink machine, at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there. Mr. Truly was present and verified that he was an employee and the police officer thereafter left the room and continued through the building. Oswald stated that he took this Coke down to the first floor and stood around and had lunch in the employee?s lunch room. He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman Bill Shelly.

This report was written to hide some simple facts, viz.--------------
1. Mr Oswald visited the second-floor lunchroom before the assassination (Ms Carolyn Arnold and Ms Sarah Stanton are 100% vindicated!)
2. Mr Oswald took his Coca Cola down to the first floor and went out front to watch the parade
3. There was no second-floor lunchroom encounter with Officer Baker and Mr Truly.

The mantra of the Anyone-But-LHO-As-Prayer-Person crowd-----------
Oh but that's crazy, Oswald himself never claimed to have gone out to see the President!
-----------can no longer be taken seriously by any self-respecting researcher.

Mr Oswald is Prayer Man. 

There has always been a great oddity contained in the original Hosty/Bookhout interrogation report:

"Oswald claimed to be on the first floor when President John F. Kennedy passed the building."

Sheesh, guys, maybe you could give us some idea of, like, where exactly on the first damn floor he's claiming to have been. Cos, ya know, he is the prime suspect in the assassination and all! Is a bit of detail too much to ask for?

The newly discovered (by Mr. Bart Kamp) handwritten note from James Hosty both gives us the detail we were looking for, and explains why there was no way in hell it was ever going to find its way into an official printed report:

"Then went outside to watch P[residential] Parade."

The game's well and truly up now. Only fools and knaves will continue to cling on to the discredited lunchroom encounter garbage and its attendant idiocies. And only fools and knaves will continue to deny the significance of the figure standing on the west side of the doorway in the Wiegman and Darnell films. It's none other than Mr Oswald.

The arc of the moral universe may be long, friends, but it really does bend toward justice.

This is an historic week in JFK assassination research.

[Brian Doyle]

That isn't at all an accurate interpretation of the Hosty notes and Alan Ford is contemptuously ignoring the reasons why just like his mentor Kamp...

The Prayer Man people are fools because the scan will show Sarah Stanton as being the person these evidence fantasists are calling Oswald...Davidson already proved it but they ignored it...

[Frederick Clements]

Quite a great new find. Hosty confirms that Oswald is Prayer Man. Doyle can rant and rave all he wants but it does not change the evidence one bit.

Fred

[Mark A. Oblazney]

Quite a great new find. Hosty confirms that Oswald is Prayer Man. Doyle can rant and rave all he wants but it does not change the evidence one bit.

Fred

If only...... then, history would have to be re-written.  Got hope?  Nope.  The evidence describes otherwise, but that's just me, see.  It DEFINITELY was some dude taking pictures with a camera.  But what do I know?  I just see a man holding up a (camera?).  I'm sure the original film will conclude it was NOT Sarah, as Mr. Doyle postulates.  But again...... this is all..... Pareidoylia (should we copyright that word?).  This is just an opinion, not a twelve-paragraph analysis.  So there.