Prayer Woman

[James Hackerott]

Thanks, James! 

Not to nitpick, but I still can't for the life of me work out how the head of Frazier at the edge of the landing--------i.e. several feet forward from the glass--------could be casting a reflection this high and this far west:



Given Darnell's perspective, and Frazier's distance from the glass, I would have thought the reflection dotted in green would be a less unrealistic candidate for Frazier's reflection:

Alan,
I present three animations from Darnell's POV, each with an individual moving eastward across the landing. The first moves the model 1 ft, the second 2 ft, and third 3 ft towards the landing. I hope this is useful for you. I will be happy to refine or modify at your request. I'm not sure I covered all your questions.

My opinion is that yes, a person further back, and somewhat behind Molina,  could be superimposed with Molina's reflection. But Molina's reflection is there for sure.





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[Duncan MacRae]

Alan,
I present three animations from Darnell's POV, each with an individual moving eastward across the landing. The first moves the model 1 ft, the second 2 ft, and third 3 ft towards the landing. I hope this is useful for you. I will be happy to refine or modify at your request. I'm not sure I covered all your questions.

My opinion is that yes, a person further back, and somewhat behind Molina,  could be superimposed with Molina's reflection. But Molina's reflection is there for sure.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ACOVvJFeOlJD-LD6iK1PJyf96VCMB0xj
https://drive.google.com/open?id=15liCjyyLLQ9VKpChXC0gLfR4wFPV9Rs3
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1M7HMy4ZSnWYQ5xjyWs8OLqQLQzkHoGyL

James,

[James Hackerott]

Ok, sorry Duncan. I did not understand that button worked for animated gifs too, or forgot.
p.s.
I just edited the links with the [img tag, but now don't see any links at all, whereas I did initially. I guess I wear my Newbie button with pride 
Please forgive the test below.

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 url tag
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ACOVvJFeOlJD-LD6iK1PJyf96VCMB0xj

[Duncan MacRae]

Ok, sorry Duncan. I did not understand that button worked for animated gifs too, or forgot.
p.s.
I just edited the links with the [img tag, but now don't see any links at all, whereas I did initially. I guess I wear my Newbie button with pride 
Please forgive the test below.

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 url tag
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ACOVvJFeOlJD-LD6iK1PJyf96VCMB0xj

No problem, James.

You are using the wrong link in between the images tags. You need to get the address of the image and place it between the image tags.

Test as much as you like. I can delete them later.

[Alan Ford]

More Shadows:

Shadows indeed, Chris, but all cast by people on the steps
-----------i.e. none of them remotely like the 'shadow' we see on Lovelady!

[Alan Ford]

Alan,
I present three animations from Darnell's POV, each with an individual moving eastward across the landing. The first moves the model 1 ft, the second 2 ft, and third 3 ft towards the landing. I hope this is useful for you. I will be happy to refine or modify at your request. I'm not sure I covered all your questions.

My opinion is that yes, a person further back, and somewhat behind Molina,  could be superimposed with Molina's reflection. But Molina's reflection is there for sure.





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These are super-helpful, James. The time and effort you have put in here, as elsewhere, are greatly appreciated! 

Returning to Frazier's reflection, I'm still troubled by the lack of distance between it and his head. On the simulation you posted a few pages back, the greater similarity of head-to-reflection relationship seems to be not with Frazier at edge of landing but with Frazier in deeper shadow from the lintel:



And yet, you seem to have gotten the lintel shadow spot on.

Why the lack of distance between Frazier and his reflection in Darnell? It just seems off to me...

Something to do with blurring perhaps? 

[Alan Ford]

One step down.
Landing edge.
3ft back.
6ft back

I still maintain that Prayer Man has his arms folded in Darnell
----------body faced forward!
----------his 'left forearm' NOT his left forearm but something BEHIND him that is moving independently of him!

[Barry Pollard]

Shadows indeed, Chris, but all cast by people on the steps
-----------i.e. none of them remotely like the 'shadow' we see on Lovelady!

The hombre with no sombrero spills the beans.

Well, perhaps he does and just barely.
Also note gloved hand of traffic cop on door, is it partially shaded?