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Online Larry Trotter

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #460 on: June 22, 2018, 04:38:24 PM »
As a reminder for clarification, the LeeHarveyOswald/PrayerManTheory cannot co-exist with the SecondFloorLunchRoomEncounter that occurred at about 12:31:00/12:32:00pm CST. However, testimony exists that confirms the SFLRE at said time, and PrayerPersonImage had just been filmed standing on the Elm St FirstFloorEntranceLanding.


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« Reply #460 on: June 22, 2018, 04:38:24 PM »

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #461 on: June 22, 2018, 05:18:22 PM »
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As a reminder for clarification, the LeeHarveyOswald/PrayerManTheory cannot co-exist with the SecondFloorLunchRoomEncounter that occurred at about 12:31:00/12:32:00pm CST. However, testimony exists that confirms the SFLRE at said time, and PrayerPersonImage had just been filmed standing on the Elm St FirstFloorEntranceLanding.


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Sorry to see you're still playing catchup, Italics! We all know the testimony you reference. Unlike gullible you, however, we also know that testimony does not equal proof. The evolving story told by Baker & Truly is just that----------a story, an agreed narrative whose purpose was the elimination of LHO's alibi.

You still haven't answered my question, so I'll rewrite it in your language in hopes that this might facilitate comprehension on your side:

Do you, MrLarryTrotter, believe, as in lend credence to the claim, that MsSarahStanton, an employee of the TexasSchoolBookDepository, a concern whose salient building was located at 411ElmSt, that latter being a street in Dallas, that locality being a city of Texas, a State in the nation known as TheUnitedStatesofAmerica, saw one LeeHarveyOswald, the now deceased accused in the matter of the shooting of MrJohnFitzgeraldKennedy, USP, and the wounding of JohnConnally, Governor, at 12.30pm CST, a small number of minutes prior to said shooting at/near the recreational lunchroom on the second floor of said building holding what was identifiably a small bottle of 'coke' in his hand? For the record, and in the interests of provable research, I wish to state that by 'hand' is meant no more and no less than a 5-digit body part at the end of an arm.
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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #462 on: June 22, 2018, 06:49:41 PM »
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A coke he had bought - what? - 15 minutes earlier and had spent the intervening time staring at without drinking from? (Remember, Mrs Reid said the coke bottle was full). Uncredible!

Don't be silly. They didn't mention it because it didn't exist yet. Only once the lunchroom fiction had taken shape was the interrogation report rewritten to reflect the new 'facts' of the case. Baker's "man walking away from the stairway" on the third or fourth floor became a man walking to the soda machine in the second floor lunchroom. On NO account could word be allowed to get out of LHO's purchase of a coke BEFORE the assassination because it would render nonsensical the official story. The suppression of Carolyn Arnold's story is the smoking gun here!


Alan is taking over the thread now and reducing it to the one-line gotcha come-backs that Murphy cultists deal at...Alan ignores that I have proven Prayer Man is Sarah Stanton so therefore it becomes obvious that Oswald is back in the Depository...Most likely in the 2nd floor lunch room where all the known witnessing keeps placing him...

Alan ignores that Mrs Reid saw an Oswald with a white T-shirt...When Alan has trouble with the evidence he goes on the offensive and mocks people with laughing icons...Larry Trotter wisely calls this "playing some kind of stupid game"...Unless Oswald decided to strip down his brown shirt that would mean this is the second Oswald that Roger Craig saw...And it has to be a second Oswald because he departs from the Depository at a different time and in a different direction from the bus/taxi Oswald...DiEugenio stays quiet on this evidence because personal defamation will get you around it when you operate in a biased room...If Mrs Reid's Oswald had a full Coke it is very possible that it was because it was a second Oswald with a second Coke...When sound-bite Alan gets to dealing with the confirmed second Oswald seen by Roger Craig he goes to mockery icons...Alan isn't credible...From his style Alan is simply a Prayer Man propaganda zealot who is impervious to any contrary evidence and deals with such by ignoring it and turning up the shouts and emojies...

Alan has no evidence that the 2nd floor lunch room encounter is a hoax...All he has are the contrived re-arrangements of evidence by Parker, Murphy, and Kamp in order to get around the real way the evidence is flowing...In the end it is just Alan repeatedly shouting the encounter was a hoax against ever-building evidence it wasn't...Alan ignores that Truly told his wife about it on Friday night...Alan ignores that Baker did give mention to some kind of encounter in the affidavit and that it was most likely the lunch room encounter that Baker was making more vague exactly because its realness was a threat to the official story...The lunch room story smacks of a real encounter they tried to cover-up at first but then realized they couldn't get away with...

Alan is lying again...He is injecting that Baker said Oswald was walking to the soda machine when Baker never said any such thing...That is just Alan spinning the evidence which goes to show his level of honesty and lack of respect for the readers...Alan's not going far enough...Sure, no information could be let out about Oswald buying a Coke...But even worse, no information could be revealed that showed Oswald was in the lunch room where the Coke would only prove his presence there the whole time...Yes, the suppression of Carolyn Arnold's story that had nothing to do with any Coke but had everything to do with Oswald being in the 2nd floor lunch room where Baker & Truly saw him 6 minutes later...

Alan has full posting privileges on the Deep Politics board...A board run by Lemkin and Johnson where they are very particular about Deep Political thought...A board where Greg Parker was banned exactly because of trolling-like comments similar to what Alan offers here...Lauren banned Parker but when I told Lauren that DiEugenio was posting Parker's same type of material that he got banned for in the form of the Prayer Man garbage Lauren attacked me instead of honoring a valid site-rules based complaint (site rules that Lauren didn't seem to feel obliged to even recognize or apply to his dictator-like moderation)...The same Deep Politics board where the major discovery of new Oswald witnessing didn't even get mention due to the stifling gravity of the bullies who run the place...Some deep politics there eh?

An interesting thing arises here where Baker & Truly may have encountered a second Oswald at the 3rd floor staircase landing...
 

 
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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #462 on: June 22, 2018, 06:49:41 PM »

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #463 on: June 22, 2018, 07:04:21 PM »
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An interesting thing arises here where Baker & Truly may have encountered a second Oswald at the 3rd floor staircase landing... 

And there we have it! An admission from Brian that Baker's affidavit describes an encounter on a staircase landing higher than the 2nd floor. Now all Brian need do is drop the kooky Oswaldx2 garbage so that the reality can hit him...
--------------no encounter in the lunchroom!
--------------Baker changed his story!

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #464 on: June 22, 2018, 07:06:59 PM »

Stanton sees Oswald by the stairs in front of the 2nd floor lunch room at 12:18...Oswald goes to the Domino Room where he sees Norman and Jarman...Oswald walks back up to the 2nd floor lunch room where Carolyn Arnold sees him at 12:25...Baker & Truly see Oswald in the 2nd floor lunch room at 12:31:15...The long-sleeved lunch room Oswald descends the back staircase and exits the rear...He is seen by Frazier walking up Houston and crossing at Elm... Jeraldean Reid sees a second Oswald exit through the offices... Roger Craig sees the T-shirt Oswald get in the station wagon...


Over on the Education Forum the thread has been hijacked by Bart Kamp and the original topic filtered out so Bart can now host the thread while making trivial corrections on totally unrelated points (that are based on false claims that go unchallenged by the Prayer Man dominators)...The moderation sees this as "very happy with the current state of affairs on the forum"... Geesh...

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #464 on: June 22, 2018, 07:06:59 PM »

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #465 on: June 22, 2018, 07:23:52 PM »
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Sorry to see you're still playing catchup, Italics! We all know the testimony you reference. Unlike gullible you, however, we also know that testimony does not equal proof. The evolving story told by Baker & Truly is just that----------a story, an agreed narrative whose purpose was the elimination of LHO's alibi.

You still haven't answered my question, so I'll rewrite it in your language in hopes that this might facilitate comprehension on your side:

Do you, MrLarryTrotter, believe, as in lend credence to the claim, that MsSarahStanton, an employee of the TexasSchoolBookDepository, a concern whose salient building was located at 411ElmSt, that latter being a street in Dallas, that locality being a city of Texas, a State in the nation known as TheUnitedStatesofAmerica, saw one LeeHarveyOswald, the now deceased accused in the matter of the shooting of MrJohnFitzgeraldKennedy, USP, and the wounding of JohnConnally, Governor, at 12.30pm CST, a small number of minutes prior to said shooting at/near the recreational lunchroom on the second floor of said building holding what was identifiably a small bottle of 'coke' in his hand? For the record, and in the interests of provable research, I wish to state that by 'hand' is meant no more and no less than a 5-digit body part at the end of an arm.
And how does your question relate to the post, that you, Ford, quoted, which referenced testimony by ML Baker and RS Truly?
Before you make "answer demands", you might review this thread to confirm you have answered questions, appropriately, that were asked of you, AlanFord.

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #466 on: June 22, 2018, 09:33:52 PM »
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Oswald walks back up to the 2nd floor lunch room where Carolyn Arnold sees him at 12:25...Baker & Truly see Oswald in the 2nd floor lunch room at 12:31:15...

But Baker's testimony puts LHO outside the lunchroom when Baker first sees him! What do you believe LHO was doing outside the lunchroom?

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #466 on: June 22, 2018, 09:33:52 PM »

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #467 on: June 22, 2018, 09:40:23 PM »
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And how does your question relate to the post, that you, Ford, quoted, which referenced testimony by ML Baker and RS Truly?
Before you make "answer demands", you might review this thread to confirm you have answered questions, appropriately, that were asked of you, AlanFord.


Sarah Stanton's sighting of LHO with a coke before the assassination blows a gaping wide hole in the story told to the Warren Commission by Baker & Truly.

Before you make "further contributions" to this thread you might review your inability to offer anything beyond banal restatements of your LNerish sentiment 'I trust witness statements and testimony and deplore any attempt to examine them critically'!

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« Reply #467 on: June 22, 2018, 09:40:23 PM »

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #468 on: June 22, 2018, 09:45:26 PM »


Take a look at the Education Forum for a classic example of a thread hijack...Because of brutish censorship I can't respond to the false information the hijackers are using to divert the thread from the original subject matter...It is not a mistake that this is happening...The persons doing it are doing so intentionally to avoid addressing the proof shown in the original post that they don't want to admit overturns their previous Prayer Man claims...

DiEugenio is a stickler for people going off topic at the Education Forum and is usually the first to complain and first to be served by the moderators in getting the thread back on topic...The strategy of making up lies as the reason for banning someone who disproves the Prayer Man theory is being used very effectively and the hypocrisy is in full bloom on the EF...


 

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #469 on: June 22, 2018, 09:52:53 PM »
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Take a look at the Education Forum for a classic example of a thread hijack...Because of brutish censorship I can't respond to the false information the hijackers are using to divert the thread from the original subject matter...It is not a mistake that this is happening...The persons doing it are doing so intentionally to avoid addressing the proof shown in the original post that they don't want to admit overturns their previous Prayer Man claims...

DiEugenio is a stickler for people going off topic at the Education Forum and is usually the first to complain and first to be served by the moderators in getting the thread back on topic...The strategy of making up lies as the reason for banning someone who disproves the Prayer Man theory is being used very effectively and the hypocrisy is in full bloom on the EF...


Take heart, Brian, and be serene in the assurance that your contribution to the Prayer Man discussion has not gone unnoticed...
-------------You have euthanised the SarahStanton=PrayerMan theory by showing us a contemporary photo of Sarah Stanton
-------------You have found crucial corroboration for Carolyn Arnold's sighting of LHO in the lunchroom before the shooting, a key element of the original Prayer Man theory!
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