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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #460 on: June 22, 2018, 07:04:21 PM »
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An interesting thing arises here where Baker & Truly may have encountered a second Oswald at the 3rd floor staircase landing... 

And there we have it! An admission from Brian that Baker's affidavit describes an encounter on a staircase landing higher than the 2nd floor. Now all Brian need do is drop the kooky Oswaldx2 garbage so that the reality can hit him...
--------------no encounter in the lunchroom!
--------------Baker changed his story!

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #460 on: June 22, 2018, 07:04:21 PM »

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #461 on: June 22, 2018, 07:06:59 PM »

Stanton sees Oswald by the stairs in front of the 2nd floor lunch room at 12:18...Oswald goes to the Domino Room where he sees Norman and Jarman...Oswald walks back up to the 2nd floor lunch room where Carolyn Arnold sees him at 12:25...Baker & Truly see Oswald in the 2nd floor lunch room at 12:31:15...The long-sleeved lunch room Oswald descends the back staircase and exits the rear...He is seen by Frazier walking up Houston and crossing at Elm... Jeraldean Reid sees a second Oswald exit through the offices... Roger Craig sees the T-shirt Oswald get in the station wagon...


Over on the Education Forum the thread has been hijacked by Bart Kamp and the original topic filtered out so Bart can now host the thread while making trivial corrections on totally unrelated points (that are based on false claims that go unchallenged by the Prayer Man dominators)...The moderation sees this as "very happy with the current state of affairs on the forum"... Geesh...

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #462 on: June 22, 2018, 07:23:52 PM »
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Sorry to see you're still playing catchup, Italics! We all know the testimony you reference. Unlike gullible you, however, we also know that testimony does not equal proof. The evolving story told by Baker & Truly is just that----------a story, an agreed narrative whose purpose was the elimination of LHO's alibi.

You still haven't answered my question, so I'll rewrite it in your language in hopes that this might facilitate comprehension on your side:

Do you, MrLarryTrotter, believe, as in lend credence to the claim, that MsSarahStanton, an employee of the TexasSchoolBookDepository, a concern whose salient building was located at 411ElmSt, that latter being a street in Dallas, that locality being a city of Texas, a State in the nation known as TheUnitedStatesofAmerica, saw one LeeHarveyOswald, the now deceased accused in the matter of the shooting of MrJohnFitzgeraldKennedy, USP, and the wounding of JohnConnally, Governor, at 12.30pm CST, a small number of minutes prior to said shooting at/near the recreational lunchroom on the second floor of said building holding what was identifiably a small bottle of 'coke' in his hand? For the record, and in the interests of provable research, I wish to state that by 'hand' is meant no more and no less than a 5-digit body part at the end of an arm.
And how does your question relate to the post, that you, Ford, quoted, which referenced testimony by ML Baker and RS Truly?
Before you make "answer demands", you might review this thread to confirm you have answered questions, appropriately, that were asked of you, AlanFord.

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #462 on: June 22, 2018, 07:23:52 PM »

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #463 on: June 22, 2018, 09:33:52 PM »
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Oswald walks back up to the 2nd floor lunch room where Carolyn Arnold sees him at 12:25...Baker & Truly see Oswald in the 2nd floor lunch room at 12:31:15...

But Baker's testimony puts LHO outside the lunchroom when Baker first sees him! What do you believe LHO was doing outside the lunchroom?

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #464 on: June 22, 2018, 09:40:23 PM »
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And how does your question relate to the post, that you, Ford, quoted, which referenced testimony by ML Baker and RS Truly?
Before you make "answer demands", you might review this thread to confirm you have answered questions, appropriately, that were asked of you, AlanFord.


Sarah Stanton's sighting of LHO with a coke before the assassination blows a gaping wide hole in the story told to the Warren Commission by Baker & Truly.

Before you make "further contributions" to this thread you might review your inability to offer anything beyond banal restatements of your LNerish sentiment 'I trust witness statements and testimony and deplore any attempt to examine them critically'!

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #464 on: June 22, 2018, 09:40:23 PM »

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #465 on: June 22, 2018, 09:45:26 PM »


Take a look at the Education Forum for a classic example of a thread hijack...Because of brutish censorship I can't respond to the false information the hijackers are using to divert the thread from the original subject matter...It is not a mistake that this is happening...The persons doing it are doing so intentionally to avoid addressing the proof shown in the original post that they don't want to admit overturns their previous Prayer Man claims...

DiEugenio is a stickler for people going off topic at the Education Forum and is usually the first to complain and first to be served by the moderators in getting the thread back on topic...The strategy of making up lies as the reason for banning someone who disproves the Prayer Man theory is being used very effectively and the hypocrisy is in full bloom on the EF...


 

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #466 on: June 22, 2018, 09:52:53 PM »
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Take a look at the Education Forum for a classic example of a thread hijack...Because of brutish censorship I can't respond to the false information the hijackers are using to divert the thread from the original subject matter...It is not a mistake that this is happening...The persons doing it are doing so intentionally to avoid addressing the proof shown in the original post that they don't want to admit overturns their previous Prayer Man claims...

DiEugenio is a stickler for people going off topic at the Education Forum and is usually the first to complain and first to be served by the moderators in getting the thread back on topic...The strategy of making up lies as the reason for banning someone who disproves the Prayer Man theory is being used very effectively and the hypocrisy is in full bloom on the EF...


Take heart, Brian, and be serene in the assurance that your contribution to the Prayer Man discussion has not gone unnoticed...
-------------You have euthanised the SarahStanton=PrayerMan theory by showing us a contemporary photo of Sarah Stanton
-------------You have found crucial corroboration for Carolyn Arnold's sighting of LHO in the lunchroom before the shooting, a key element of the original Prayer Man theory!
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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #466 on: June 22, 2018, 09:52:53 PM »

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« Reply #467 on: June 22, 2018, 10:00:37 PM »
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But Baker's testimony puts LHO outside the lunchroom when Baker first sees him! What do you believe LHO was doing outside the lunchroom?


Oswald was in the vestibule window because he was watching the stairway while at the same time obeying his orders to be in the 2nd floor lunch room...He probably heard Truly shouting for the elevator and wanted to see what was going on...He was probably doing the same thing he was doing when Stanton saw him...

Because Prayer Man researchers have dominated the subject with their myopic tunnel vision they have prevented some very simple detective analysis from being done to Baker's witnessing...I think Baker saw Oswald in the vestibule window watching the landing and when Baker appeared Oswald flinched away and Baker caught the evasive flinch and pursued him like any good cop would...Alan, you notice dodgy language in witnesses...Please look at Baker's evasive language in describing how he noticed Oswald at the Commission hearing...Baker was hiding the fact he saw Oswald standing there looking which means Oswald was set-up and stationary and therefore not just rushing in to the lunch room from the 6th floor...Baker avoided detailing this and the flinching away because the plotters knew they gave the game away as to Oswald's being there the whole time...The same reason they omitted Stanton and Carolyn Arnold's witnessing...

I and being slandered and called "too insulting" by persons who have seized control of the research internet and used that lie to censor me...A skilled analyst like myself should be protected from those social media types and the damage they do to the best analyses...

 

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Prayer Woman
« Reply #467 on: June 22, 2018, 10:00:37 PM »

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« Reply #468 on: June 22, 2018, 10:06:27 PM »
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-------------You have euthanised the SarahStanton=PrayerMan theory by showing us a contemporary photo of Sarah Stanton

Which is why you are going to further prove that by asking Kamp to add the forearm in that contemporary photo to his blow-up of Prayer Man's forearm that he posted in that same thread...

Sure Alan, and you are not deliberately ignoring the 5 foot 5 height of Prayer Man that perfectly matches Stanton's height, or the perfectly matching hips...

Maybe Jim DiEugenio will ask Kamp why he omitted juxtaposing Sarah's forearm next to the excellent blow-up of Prayer Man's forearm that he posted?

Nice troll!

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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #469 on: June 22, 2018, 10:09:37 PM »
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I think Baker saw Oswald in the vestibule window watching the landing and when Baker appeared Oswald flinched away and Baker caught the evasive flinch and pursued him like any good cop would...

But Baker thought the shots had come from the ROOF! Why would he waste his time going after a man just one floor up? Crazy!!

The reason he said LHO was already mobile when he first saw him through the glass door was he had to make the new story conform somehow to his original 'a man walking away from the stairway' statement.

I agree with you about Baker's language. His testimony is a lie. The footage of Baker & LHO in the DPD hallway on the Saturday which Barry Pollard has discovered also tells its own story. Baker's head goes down
-------------he doesn't want LHO to recognise him!

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