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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #150 on: May 22, 2018, 04:21:17 PM »
For clarification, but speaking only for myself, I do not consider anyone to be "he is the only reference point one needs to assert that PM is Sarah".

As previously stated, I am unable to embrace the PrayerPersonImage "facial enhancement" often attributed to ChrisDavidson, but I do interpret what I see of the image, unenhanced, and conclude that there is no reliable evidence indicating the PrayerPersonImage is that of a male.

I do not wish to debate said enhancement, either way. However, my conclusion that the PrayerPersonImage is that of a female, and very likely then TexasSchoolBookDepository Building employee SarahStanton is said female, relies on situational event testimony/statements made by TSBD Bldg Elm St entrance landing and stairs occupants at the time of filming from a moving camera a few seconds after the DealeyPlaza assassination of PresidentKennedy and wounding of GovernorConnally.


EDIT: For the record, an observation, early on by a then researcher/author, regarding the image facial area caused my interest to research said image. And, I place valuable reliance upon assistance from the research of others to develop my conclusion that the PrayerWomanImage most likely represents SarahJuanitaDeanStanton.
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« Reply #151 on: May 22, 2018, 05:15:34 PM »


    Davidson's enhancement will prove to show Sarah Stanton's face at the best levels of technical analysis...

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« Reply #152 on: May 22, 2018, 05:25:25 PM »
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  Oh yeah, I think you already told me that...In any case the identity of Running Woman is irrelevant...What counts is she was standing next to Gloria Calvery in the motorcade spectators and ran after her to the steps...Since Stancak's imaginary Stanton that he places behind Frazier doesn't exist the only option for Stanton is Prayer Man whom Frazier is obviously speaking to in Couch/Darnell despite the uncredible denials of false moderators...

Well, again, a conclusion. But, I do believe that KarenWestbrook, KaranHicks, CaroleReed, and GloriaCalvery were standing, as seen in the ZFilm, side by side on the Elm St sidewalk. And, said conclusion indicates that when viewing a quality ZFilm, Ms Westbrook is wearing a light blue scarf.

The group has JohnTemplin standing next to GloriaCalvery, to her right based upon my conclusion, and ErnestBrandt to JohnTemplin's right.

EDIT: Noteworthy is the fact that references to named individuals is actually in reference to PersonImages that appear to represent those named, from visual indications as well as additional situational event indications.
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« Reply #153 on: May 22, 2018, 06:24:46 PM »
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    The trouble with that is there is no woman with a light blue scarf in the grouping you cited...

Not a problem for me, Brian. But, IIRC, the "grouping" was established by statements/testimony. Using additional indications, I concluded the L to R "Image" standing order to be representative of KarenWestbrook, KaranHicks, CaroleReed, and GloriaCalvery.

That said, the Image I have interpreted to represent Ms Westbrook appears to me to be wearing a light blue scarf.

I consider the correct identification of "RunningWomanImage", however minor, to be valuable in confirming the correct situational event of the entrance portal stairs/landing as filmed.

Should provable reliable evidence be established that strongly indicates otherwise, so be it. However, my current level of understanding of said filmed images is where I am now.

But, I do have to recognize and confirm much of "my level of understanding" of the specified situational event, has been aided by the research conclusions of BrianDoyle.
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« Reply #154 on: May 22, 2018, 10:33:30 PM »
The third woman to Calvery's left in the Newsweek Zapruder image with the names of the individuals could have a light blue scarf...It's hard to tell...I think she is labeled "Jane Berry" but closer examination will show there's a second woman in that same slot...

I believe the woman you are referring to is seen in Betzner 3 and could be further examined with photo improvements..
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« Reply #155 on: May 23, 2018, 07:01:37 PM »
Hey Brian, I recently stumbled upon a one frame per second video of the ZFilm with a clear in-motion view of the FourLadiesImage standing on the sidewalk just to JohnTemplinImage's left.
And, there appears to be a momentary head-turn to their right early own, by the first LadyImage, L to R, and later there appears to be a momentary head-turn to their right by the second LadyImage, L to R. The slight head turns indicate both ladies to appear to have dark hair.


Unfortunately the "enhanced brightness" quite likely brightens a light blue scarf to a near white color.

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« Reply #156 on: May 24, 2018, 04:57:10 PM »
To reiterate...Stancak has fabricated a second woman on the landing behind Frazier whom he is passing off as Stanton because he is desperate to avoid the obvious...This alone solves the Prayer Man issue because once you don't allow Stancak's fabricated Stanton Prayer Man is the only person whom Stanton could be...The only other option would be Tiny Woman (who is Pauline Sanders) but that can't be because Tiny Woman is too small and too far behind Frazier to be anyone who he was talking to when Calvery ran up...

The Prayer Man issue and those who stubbornly back it has destroyed the credibility of the entire assassination research community...Biased moderators impose strict scrutiny on methodology and evidence when it comes to our claims (that they still haven't answered) but they then allow Stancak to make such brazenly bogus claims without such scrutiny or demands of strict evidence...Rubbish science is praised while awful flaws in evidence are not even detected...Strategic censorship protects the favored coddled offerers of this rotten research while no credible evidence is good enough from our side...At least not any that can't be flagrantly ignored with dishonest complaints about site rules violations and the subsequent censoring banning that follows and protects the violators...The JFK research community has been destroyed by incompetent moderators who are just members of the Murphy mob who obtain a moderator avatar who do not necessarily possess the ability or intelligence to oversee the high level research material they have been put in charge of...

Stancak hasn't come back and adjusted the 3 inch too long leg mannequin calibrated by the measuring stick because he can't and he has already refuted himself...Kamp tries to ignore this because he knows he's beaten...The dishonesty of the DiEugenio-led community is epic in its lies and ignoring of this...

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« Reply #157 on: May 24, 2018, 09:30:40 PM »
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The third woman to Calvery's left in the Newsweek Zapruder image with the names of the individuals could have a light blue scarf...It's hard to tell...I think she is labeled "Jane Berry" but closer examination will show there's a second woman in that same slot...

I believe the woman you are referring to is seen in Betzner 3 and could be further examined with photo improvements..

When viewing Betzner3, I believe I see two of the four LadyImages, representing GloriaCalvery, and the other LadyImage, either KaranHicks or KarenWestbrook. But, I do believe the SSAgentImage, EmoryRoberts perhaps, is blocking the CaroleReed LadyImage.  But, SSAgentImage could also be blocking the KaranHicks LadyImage, which then indicates the KarenWestbrook LadyImage being visible.

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« Reply #158 on: May 24, 2018, 11:24:37 PM »
Larry:  I am able to enlarge Betzner 3 on my cell phone...It is difficult to see any scarf on the woman to Calvery's left in Betzner 3 when enlarged to maximum extent...Not sure which one we are looking at there or if the angle simply obscures the scarf...In your video the scarf is pretty far back and a lot of hair is seen so it could be that the scarf rides too far back and that is the same woman...Like you say, the Carol Reed woman is short and therefore obscured...I wonder if we could get height records on her?... Edit:  On closer examination I can see the scarf and it is definitely the same woman...

In any case, Mr Kamp lied...When enlarged to maximum extent Tall Woman clearly has the face of Gloria Calvery...We already know the woman Karen Westbrook claimed to be Calvery isn't her simply by looking at her...Mr Kamp typically tries to seize control of the narrative and he has a whole cadre of dishonest researchers who allow him to get away with this nefarious deception...Kamp tries to divert the issue to confirmation of my speaking to Calvery's son however he is doing it in order to avoid acknowledging that the two Calvery's are already quite distinct in the presently available images and that the biggest enlargement of Betzner 3 makes it more than clear that Tall Woman is most definitely Calvery without a doubt...The only reason we are still arguing this is because of a very sick individual who isn't afraid to use such gutter tactics along with the uncredible community members who allow him knowing the whole time we are posting the truth... 

The Prayer Man pseudo-analysts are playing a game of politeness however it is a false affectation that is being used to cover up rotten claims they still haven't accounted for...They are not being forced to answer our evidence that already makes their bogus offerings moot...

Stancak already jumped the shark on credibility when he refused to answer for his drawing a bent left leg over the radiator...       
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Re: Prayer Woman
« Reply #159 on: May 25, 2018, 05:43:21 AM »
I think it important to recognize the likelihood that a possibility exists that LadyImage aka SharonSimmons was mistakenly identified as KarenWestbrook. And, that helped to cause the two LadyImages seen with SharonSimmonsImage to be mistakenly identified as GloriaCalvery and KaranHicks, instead of GloriaHolt and StellaJacob. An easy error, as the images of the seven ladies appear near to each other.

As for the landing/stairs MannequinImage exhibition, it is just that, and has no evidentiary value. It is beyond doubt that the MannequinImages are being "positioned" to illustrate a situational event that no corroborating evidence has been provided as confirmation that it did occur as it is being presented.
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