Prayer Woman

[John Iacoletti]

Hmmm "I've read it" vs "I tend to gloss over"

Wow, our Forum No.1 Liar strikes again, Oops!

..and yet you can't point to a single thing I've lied about.  Hmmm....

[John Iacoletti]

How do you know what I believe?

Because you're a nutter.  You think that Oswald was up in the sixth floor firing a rifle.  Not that you have any evidence of that either...

No, I just came across more of your inconsistencies.

That's not an inconsistency.  That's just more of your ineptitude in the construction of a logical argument.

[John Iacoletti]

Frazier. He has repeatedly been asked about the PP figure. Not once has he suggested it is a female, still less that it is Stanton. Go figure.

Frazier said that Stanton remained to his left?  Please cite.

No offence, John, but you're arguing like a LNer.

I don't like unfounded assumptions and handwaving from any side.

Why would we distrust the shared memory of Stanton's daughter-in-law and granddaughter as to what she many times talked about?

Versus a first-hand account from Stanton herself?

Exactly. Who knows? So let's stop dismissing PP=LHO as though we already know where LHO was. Let's leave that to the LNers.

The right thing to do is to dismiss any claim that can't be demonstrated to be true.

[Alan Ford]

Frazier said that Stanton remained to his left?  Please cite.

You misunderstand (wilfully, I suspect): Frazier has many, many times identified Stanton as standing beside him on the landing. He obviously has a strong memory/association of her being there. Yet when shown PP, and pressed as to who it might be, she has not even entered into his head as a candidate. All he has been 'able' to offer is: Well, it's not Billy Lovelady or Bill Shelley, coz they'd already left the steps.

What does this tell us? Simply this: Stanton was to his left, she didn't do a cartwheel way over to his right between JFK turning onto Elm and Wiegman starting to film, and PP looks nothing like her.

This is not complicated, John. The Stanton theory is dead. It's not pining. It's dead. Your refusal to acknowledge this speaks only to your bias, your glib approach to the topic, and your glaring inability to come up with a credible non-LHO candidate.

Versus a first-hand account from Stanton herself?

That would have been ideal, but if Stanton made the understandable decision to opt for a quiet life and not tell the 'investigators' about LHO by the second-floor lunchroom, then who are we to judge? Besides, the FBI would only have done a Carolyn Arnold on her statement.

Luckily, however, she told a consistent story to her family over the years of seeing LHO by the second-floor lunchroom before the assassination. With a coke in his hand. I see no good reason to accuse her-----or Rose and Wanda-----of lying. Do you?

The right thing to do is to dismiss any claim that can't be demonstrated to be true.

And yet you refuse to dismiss a claim that has been demonstrated to be untrue (Stanton=LHO). Ho hum.

[Duncan MacRae]

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[Larry Trotter]

You misunderstand (wilfully, I suspect): Frazier has many, many times identified Stanton as standing beside him on the landing. He obviously has a strong memory/association of her being there. Yet when shown PP, and pressed as to who it might be, she has not even entered into his head as a candidate. All he has been 'able' to offer is: Well, it's not Billy Lovelady or Bill Shelley, coz they'd already left the steps.

What does this tell us? Simply this: Stanton was to his left, she didn't do a cartwheel way over to his right between JFK turning onto Elm and Wiegman starting to film, and PP looks nothing like her.

Can you provide the direct quote of the question asked of BuellFrazier regarding the positive identification of PrayerPersonImage?
And, can you provide the direct quote of BuellFrazier's answer in response to the specific quoted question about the positive identification of PrayerPersonImage?
Can you provide the direct quote by BuellFrazier stating that SarahStanton was to his left as filmed from the motorcade at or near the time of the assassination shooting in DealeyPlaza?
Can you provide a comparison photograph(s) that can be considered as proof that PrayerPersonImage looked nothing like SarahStanton in late 1963?

[Barry Pollard]

Why do you believe Altgens is "4-5s before Lovelady is first seen in Weigman"  Brian?
Altgens is about 3.5s before Z313 ...  Z254+18+18+18+9= Z317.
Myers again, says 3.6s before Z313 for the start of Weigman.
Look at it like that and it's very close.
4-5S later than Altgens and Dave would have missed the limo aproaching the underpass, which is seen around Z313+7.5s.
*Any corrections appreciated.